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Of course being able to spread the transfer fee over a number of seasons does help. But this could be a one off season in terms of a hike of income for Stuttgart. So doubling their record transfer fee still represents a huge investment on their part no matter how the payments are structured...

It would be pretty much doubling their record transfer fee. The base fee for qualifying for the Champions League is about £17m there is then TV rights money etc added to that. Additionally they get around £1.8m per win in group stage but £20m would represent a massive percentage of their base CL...

It was reported that the price would go up based on his performances on loan, but the option is Stuttgart's, if they want to exercise it there is little we can do to stop them. It's effectively a release clause that just applies to one club, and if they want to exercise it then it's down to the...

If Stuttgart want to exercise the option to buy there is little we can do to stop it happening. The only way it wouldn’t happen is if Undav himself rejects the move or we agree to compensate Stuttgart to remove the option to buy clause.

Possibly, but he wanted to return to Germany for personal reasons. If we don't allow him to and he's got personal issues playing on his mind, is annoyed about not getting a move etc then there is no guarantees how he would have performed for us.

It’s been reported that the price within option is dependent on his performances so the better he does the more they have to pay. This could price him out of a move, however you are correct if they exercise the option we can’t do anything about unless the player decides he’d rather stay at his...

A few reports, implying the source is Bild a major German newspaper, have emerged over the last couple of months. https://onefootball.com/en/news/will-deniz-undav-become-too-expensive-for-vfb-stuttgart-39044317 https://bulinews.com/news/19771/sport-bild-undav-purchase-clause-exceeds-million

Apparently the price on the option to buy is performance related so by doing so well Deniz may have made himself too expensive for Stuttgart to make the move permanent.

Been announced today that he’s changed his international allegiance to Syria. https://onefootball.com/en/news/former-germany-international-mahmoud-dahoud-has-chosen-to-represent-the-syrian-national-team-39202842

It was widely reported there was an option to buy. More recent reports suggest the fee is performance based and the better Undav does the more it’s going up, likely meaning Stuttgart can’t afford the fee now.

That would be a fantastic deal if it comes off, almost double the previous record fee paid by Stuttgart.

The whole thing about Welbeck being injured is becoming a bit of a myth. Since his return from surgery he missed just 7 league games out of about 70 until he got his current injury which has kept him out for 6 games so far. That is not the record of someone who is often unavailable.

That would be tied at around the 15th highest transfer fee paid by a German club ever, and over double Stuttgart’s highest transfer fee paid. We aren’t getting anywhere near that for him. If the reports of double digit millions are true and if it matches their highest ever fee paid we’d have...

Of course we are proactive when it comes to finding loan clubs, but there was zero noise other than Stuttgart from the very start. As we’ve seen now no matter how close our club play their cards to their chest news breaks more often than not. If any other clubs had made an enquiry it would have...

One poster mentioned his Wolves supporting mate wanted him there, unfortunately that carries no weight with Wolves actually wanting to sign him. When it became obvious he was available for loan then any Premier League clubs interested would have made an enquiry. We can't just magic up interest...

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Would be very strange to have a player with an out clause in the same window they signed him permanently. Great bit of business if they paid £8 million for him in June and then sell him for double that before the season starts.

This. Since he returned from surgery for his hamstring in December 2021 out of the 60 Premier League games we played. Danny Welbeck has had playing time in 52 of them (33 starts, 19 sub appearances), made 2 further squads where he didn't get off the bench and missed just 6 games. That is not the...

I agree, we might be able to squeeze a tiny profit but I can’t see more than that. Especially if he’s going to Stuttgart or a club of a similar ilk.

In that case I can’t see them taking the option. They have just spent £7.5 million on a striker they had on loan last season but I don’t think the money is there for them to be paying £15 million plus for a player. Only 3 or 4 German clubs have paid that or more for a player over the last few...