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[News] The police.. and not the one with Sting in it
- Thread starter HillBarnTillIDie
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- Oct 17, 2008
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Evidence of this? I had similar posts removed for “libel” @Bozza
- Oct 17, 2008
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This will be an issue for medical experts when he files civil suit. Either way it looks probable both the parties are going to prison.
- Oct 17, 2008
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The police officer was clearly out of order, has been suspended and will probably face criminal charges and be named in a civil suit.
Just in terms of being an armed officer, if he lost control THAT completely we’d be talking about a shooting incident which thankfully we’re not. I watch a lot of true crime junk on YouTube and in America he very likely likely would’ve been shot dead. They take fighting with the police - and airports - very very seriously.
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- Oct 17, 2008
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To prevent mass terrorism events which could kill thousands of people. If a jihadist carrying an assault rifle with a bomb strapped to him walks into Gatwick Airport and starts shooting everyone in sight, what should the police do, reach for their batons?
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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This…….
Funnily enough we are only seeing part of the footage, the narrative they want us to see, violence is violence but in mitigation the Police officer had witnessed his female colleague having her nose broken, and whilst this behaviour can’t be condoned in a high pressure situation people fight fire with fire.
A worrying road to move down, sections of society want to behave in an uncivilised manner including attacking and injuring Police officers but when they get a bit back they scream like stuck pigs, waving the race card.
Obviously the said copper will now be hung, drawn and quartered by the establishment but has the suspect who broke the Policewoman’s nose been charged as well?
NSC is a broadchurch and the shock and indignation is clear for all to see, but every action has a reaction, if the suspect had done as he was told and previously not attacked and broken the Policewoman’s nose, none of this would have happened.
I wonder if you had a nationwide secret ballot on this incident how much support the Policeman would actually get given all the circumstances?
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Police officers injured and five arrested at Tommy Robinson protest
Police officers were injured and five people were arrested as scuffles broke at a 'free Tommy Robinson' protest in central London.
www.standard.co.uk
Would have been interesting to see the reaction from Yaxley-Lennon if the police had of kicked some of his lot in the head while on the ground after they injured police.
Personally think those involved acted poorly, deserved what they got - except kicking someone in the head after they’ve been tasered and lying face down on the floor shows an incredible lack of self control and he should probably be sacked.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Everyone wants a strong police force with powers to control and contain any incident... until suddenly they are on the wrong end of a baton ,pepper spray or a Taser.
Nicks
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He actually says "I think racism played a part "
Racism played part in police kick incident at Manchester airport, says former senior officer
Former Met chief superintendent Dal Babu says footage of man being kicked in face by officer is ‘totally appalling’www.theguardian.com
So he has no proof and certainly wasn't there was he.
Who's they?
- Oct 17, 2008
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Presumably whoever uploaded the footage. Selective editing is extremely common in creating a narrative; a person trying to create a sympathetic narrative is going to limit a 5 minute video down to 10 seconds, if it shows the belligerents in the most negative possible light.
Do we have any info yet on what happened in the lead up? We know some of the outcomes (broken nose etc.) but all I know about the narrative is it was 'very complex'. Everyone who gets to see the other bits of footage from different cameras etc., including the Manchester mayor, sounds a bit baffled.Police officers injured and five arrested at Tommy Robinson protest
Police officers were injured and five people were arrested as scuffles broke at a 'free Tommy Robinson' protest in central London.
Would have been interesting to see the reaction from Yaxley-Lennon if the police had of kicked some of his lot in the head while on the ground after they injured police.
Personally think those involved acted poorly, deserved what they got - except kicking someone in the head after they’ve been tasered and lying face down on the floor shows an incredible lack of self control and he should probably be sacked.
Anyway, as the sensible posters (i.e., most people) on here have said, repeatedly, whatever went before does not justify the disgusting assault.
I see. Fair enough @Lenny Rider
Maybe he meant perhaps racism played a part in his assessment......
- Oct 17, 2008
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Absolutely all of this.
The Fifth Column
Lazy mug
I don't need to watch it again, if you read my post I'm making the point it may or may not be a reasonable and justifiable use of force in the circumstances, it's not for me or you to decide on that based solely on a video clip except you clearly already have despite not being in possession of all the facts and evidence, conducting your own trial by social media. At no point am I defending the officer I'm simply making a valid point about whether the use of force could be seen as lawful. On that clip alone I think he's going to struggle to make a case for it to be seen as reasonable however are there any other factors we don't know about? The guy on the floor has already been involved in attacking and hospitalising 3 other cops, does he represent enough of an ongoing threat even when face down on the ground to warrant a couple of kicks to the head? I'd be surprised if that was the case but again that's not for me to decide.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Again old boy please don’t twist peoples words, no one can condone what the Policeman did, however there has to be some form of mitigation in the fact the Policemen were attacked first and one of them had a broken nose which probably indicates the level of the attack.
The bottom line is if the said members of the public hadn’t attacked the Police this incident and the media shit storm that followed, including this thread, simply wouldn’t exist.
Has anyone considered the state of the said Policeman’s mental health, did he snap, as many people have done?
That obviously doesn’t make it right, and it clearly shouldn’t have happened but this whole scenario is loaded towards one narrative at the moment.
This is an excellent way of trying to justify his actions without actually doing so. They are trained to deal with incidents. Do you think they are training to give kicks to the head once people are down on the ground? Police know what they sign up for. I couldn’t do it. It is all about being proportionate. Revenge beatings have no place.
They deserved it. Now playing the victims but this is a fair consequence of breaking a police officers nose and going for guns at an airport . DO NOT DO IT
The fall out from it is just an excuse for the campaigns to start up IMO
Things will soon move on
The fall out from it is just an excuse for the campaigns to start up IMO
Things will soon move on
drew
Drew
You really think that stamping on someone's head or kicking them in the head could be considered a reasonable use of force? There's no may or may not about it.