Baldseagull
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Well, we don't know that do we. A Police Officer has a broken nose, but maybe that officer had instigated things.This.
Reaction of the OB way over the top - but trouble not instigated by them.
Well, we don't know that do we. A Police Officer has a broken nose, but maybe that officer had instigated things.This.
Reaction of the OB way over the top - but trouble not instigated by them.
Well, we don't know that do we. A Police Officer has a broken nose, but maybe that officer had instigated things.
Seems a modern day Petrocelli:
Akhmed Yakoob, 36, has 200,000 followers on TikTok and regularly posts videos wearing Prada trainers, a glittering diamond watch, tinted gold-framed sunglasses and Gareth Southgate-like waistcoats.
The Lamborghini-loving father-of-four uses the platform to post polished clips in which he tells followers he is 'the best defence lawyer in the UK' and 'there is a defence for every offence.
Just building a complete picture. As Burnham so rightly said, this is not clear cut and due process needs to be allowed. His measured and calm approach needs to be admired in this instance.Very odd (only its not, is it?) reporting, this.
Can either of you please explain what relevance the lawyer's political aspirations, choice of car, or questionable taste in fashion accessories has to his client's case against the violent police officer?![]()
I don’t know about that. I do know he got in hot water for some very questionable comments, which echoed those of fundamentalist Islamists.Very odd (only its not, is it?) reporting, this.
Can either of you please explain what relevance the lawyer's political aspirations, choice of car, or questionable taste in fashion accessories has to his client's case against the violent police officer?![]()
I'm not justifying his actions at all, I'm just suggesting there might be a mental health angle here, not in anyway an excuse, but it would be a factor.This is an excellent way of trying to justify his actions without actually doing so. They are trained to deal with incidents. Do you think they are training to give kicks to the head once people are down on the ground? Police know what they sign up for. I couldn’t do it. It is all about being proportionate. Revenge beatings have no place.
Complete picture of WHAT? The lawyer's choice of WATCH?Just building a complete picture. As Burnham so rightly said, this is not clear cut and due process needs to be allowed. His measured and calm approach needs to be admired in this instance.
A complete picture of everyone involved.Complete picture of WHAT? The lawyer's choice of WATCH?
Burnham's stance is spot on. As it very often is.
I have seen a 47 sec phone video that is unedited and it certainly shows more than the pixilated clip shown on TV.Presumably whoever uploaded the footage. Selective editing is extremely common in creating a narrative; a person trying to create a sympathetic narrative is going to limit a 5 minute video down to 10 seconds, if it shows the belligerents in the most negative possible light.
Sorry - this is pathetic. The LAWYER'S fashion choices are not one of those 'bricks'. He is not a subject of this investigation.A complete picture of everyone involved.
I saw it on the telly, any case is built-up brick by brick so that all information is available to all parties.
If the police are doing their job properly they should have no problem being filmed.If your at the Airport, and a policeman tells you to get down, then you get down! If you fail to do so on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time of being asked, then expect to be taken down by as much force as necessary.
The police are here to protect and serve the general public. If they suspect even the slightest chance of a serious situation occurring, then I want a strong response… specially at an airport.
Closer to home. Last week, a bloke on a moped with “L plates“ decided it was acceptable to weave in and out of traffic at a junction.
He very nearly took out a chap with his dog and would have probably of killed or seriously injured them.
Why the f**k are we putting up with this sort of behaviour from the public… and why are the police so weak?
I’ll tell you why. It’s because every-time some incident occurs and the police attend, they have cameras thrust in their faces.
Every move is scrutinised, monitored and analysed…. by the “know all” public, media and the top brass in the police organisation who appear to be more concerned about career progress / stats then affirming some hard line policing.
Personally, I think phones/video evidence should be confiscated at the time or it to be a crime to release footage before informing the police… until ALL the facts are known.
Without a strong police and justice system we’re all be screwed, and I think people should remember this.
Just a couple of days ago you were quick to agree that the soldier stabbing was '100% Terrorism related' with zero evidence.He actually says "I think racism played a part "
So he has no proof and certainly wasn't there was he.
If the guy that allegedly broke an Officers nose had mental health issues, would that make the kicking coppers actions worse?I'm not justifying his actions at all, I'm just suggesting there might be a mental health angle here, not in anyway an excuse, but it would be a factor.
Having watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.If your at the Airport, and a policeman tells you to get down, then you get down! If you fail to do so on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th time of being asked, then expect to be taken down by as much force as necessary.
Without a strong police and justice system we’re all be screwed, and I think people should remember this.
Well if they tell you to get down in an airport and you don’t, you’ll still end up on the floor but as a result of being tased. I wouldn’t recommend this.Having watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.
We do need Police, and they need to be accountable under the justice system too.
Watched all the action or just ‘that’ clip……I imagine as you are a sensible chap you probably won’t take on the police …break a nose or try and take a firearm off them eitherHaving watched the video, I think I am less likely to get down on the floor, if instructed by Police, can't stamp on my head if I am stood up.
We do need Police, and they need to be accountable under the justice system too.
Probably true, but if I don't think I have done anything wrong, I won't be going to the floor without question, or without trying to calm any anger being displayed first.Well if they tell you to get down in an airport and you don’t, you’ll still end up on the floor but as a result of being tased. I wouldn’t recommend this.
I suggest you watch the 'clip' again then. The guy is on the ground, face down and the only person near him at that point looks like an female kneeling down. There is no officer within arms reach let alone close enough to grab a weapon. We know that 3 female officers were attacked prior to this and at that point you would expect other officers to use proportionate force to get the situation under control. Stamping on someone's head is not proportionate.
The Police have a very tough job to do and that is why those that do it need to be in control of themselves at all times. Take away the kick and the stamp, then public opinion would almost certainly be against the man on the floor and what he is alleged to have done to the female officers. The actions of this one officer now overshadow that and it seems have now been a catalyst for potential unrest in the area.