Dagan
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Was this the right place to post that @chaileyjem? I'm still very new to posting here, but at a glance it looked like it was on topic for the thread, so I didn't use my post to make a new thread.
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[Albion] Summer Window and Squad 24/25
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- Jun 27, 2012
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very much on topic for this thread !
And agree with the thrust of your post that we should expect perhaps more overhaul of the squad than expected to make it manageable for Hurzeler, stronger (especially in midfield) , and hence incomings/outgoings and probably many more loans should be expected.
PS: We normally loan about 15+ players per season. Currently we're at 5 so expect a flurry of these in the next few weeks.
southstandandy
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- Jul 9, 2003
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Really just need a Right back!
If we fail to get one whose going to play there if we play a flat back four?
If we fail to get one whose going to play there if we play a flat back four?
Clive Walker
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our midfield looks like it needs some attention.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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I’d guess Hinsh will, he played both left and right back when he came on against QPR and we know he’s adept at pushing into midfield from there when we are in possession which suits how Fabian plays the game.
I’m more concerned about midfield, feels like we are a couple of players short on options there, especially if we lose WBG.
Good news if correct.
- Jun 27, 2012
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Sounds like its getting a lot of attention... (Wieffer already and Gomez / O Riley (hopefully) and others ? incoming) and plenty of loans/outgoing. )
- Oct 17, 2008
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Fab must’ve liked what he’s seen from Ayari too. Interesting one, if he’s solely assessing players performance and ignoring reputations and history, Ayari has a good chance of staying and getting minutes
Machiavelli
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As others have said, this is really helpful. I'd go for a slightly larger squad: 27 or 28. And for two reasons. First, it's just a feature of so many PL clubs that they suffer more injuries -- I suspect this is largely down to the intensity in which the game is now played. Second, we really ought to target going deep in the cups this season so, potentially, we could end up playing as many games as we did last season. So, of the list outside the 25, I'd go with Buonanotte, Yalcouye (if we can get a really good loan for him, maybe keep Ayari instead) and I'm really torn between Veltman and Lamptey. I love Veltman, his intelligence and what he's brought to us, but he is 32/33 and in his last year. Lamptey is also in his last year but there's potential sell on if we can get him to sign a new contract; there's also the question of whether we can sell this window -- if a decent enough offer comes in, think we'll have to take it. That said, I think Lamptey might be more suited as a R(W)B within FH's system; on the other side, Veltman could double up as a (R)CB.
I'd be delighted with those three signings if they happen and note that we've got Gomez coming in in Jan which will be well-timed as I suspect that there will be injuries to fill by then.
Assuming either Hinshelwood or new signing are he likely starters at right back, having Veltman on the bench to strengthen the defence overrides the attacking abilities of Lamptey, especially when there are plenty of attacking options available.
Of the not in there list keeping Yalcouye around looks a good option to me. He has already demonstrated an ability to find space and make himself available for a pass and a good engine, if he can develop the physical side of his game, he could be another gem.
Having been a big critic of Baleba last season, he looks to have filled out physically. if he can develop his passing game, especially on the end of those bursting runs, he could have a big impact this season.
Of the not in there list keeping Yalcouye around looks a good option to me. He has already demonstrated an ability to find space and make himself available for a pass and a good engine, if he can develop the physical side of his game, he could be another gem.
Having been a big critic of Baleba last season, he looks to have filled out physically. if he can develop his passing game, especially on the end of those bursting runs, he could have a big impact this season.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Then of course there was Moran who started the first Japan friendly at right back. didn’t look comfortable though
Nobby Cybergoat
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Nice work Dagan
If you're finding this difficult, imagine how Chelsea fans feel!
I too think we are probably better going for more than 25. Many of these players aren't fit at the moment and have undetermined return dates. I might be totally wrong, but i'm discounting any significant contribution from March, Ferguson and Estupinan for the first half of the season. If they play, they will be having their minutes heavily managed.
I also think It's very optimistic that we land all three of these transfer targets. Though we may land one or two that we currently don't know about (of course Hummells wasn't even on the radar a few days ago)
For that reason I think we will release / sell / loan fewer than you are suggesting. I think Veltman will stay, and will be first choice right back. I also think two of Buonanotte, Ayari, Gilmour and Yalcouye will get a squad number, (only 1 if we land O'Reilly or similar). I can also see us retaining Samuels while we have only 1 fit left back
- Jun 27, 2012
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Baker Boitey off on a season long loan to L2 Port Vale
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At right back no he didn’t but he’s a very promising midfielder I think - he can definitely pick a pass - we have so many though so who knows
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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- Oct 4, 2003
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Hinsh played right back against Chelsea and Brentford on the US tour last season. He didn’t play badly but didn’t look as comfortable as he did playing there as the season went on.
Difficult to judge Moran for the same reasons, he needs to learn the role if he’s going to play there more permanently and that takes time.
- Oct 17, 2008
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Absolutely, just saying he didn’t look great solely based on what I saw, which isn’t the same as the boss sees and in training etc.
Great analysis piece @degan
I think your final squad is close to where we’ll end up but I’d for for 27 rather than 25. We need a third keeper but I suppose an U23 one could step up.
I’d keep Veltman because I think he can play the right wing back role well as he is a good passer. Igor is the man to sell if Hummels comes in. Again, this is about passing. Igor is great ball carrier but a poor passer when compared to Dunk or Hummels.
Finally, I’d loan out Osman and Buonanotte and give Ayari a chance. Osman looks a great 4th striker option but one of the wingers will have to step up here. I think Hürzeler really likes him because he seems like he is an all rounder. We could send him out on loan in January if Gomez needs to take his place. Or Gomez could go out on loan?
The below squad can cope with a good number of injuries but still have a good starting 11 as it contains a lot of adaptable players:
3 GK - Verbruggen, Steele, Fisher/Cahill
5 CB - Dunk, Van Hecke, Hummels*, Veltman, Webster
2 LB - Barco, Estupiñán
2 RB - Kadıoğlu*, Hinshelwood
4 CM - Wieffer, Baleba, O'Riley*, Milner, Ayari/Gomez*
2 CAM - Enciso, Sarmiento
3 RW - Minteh, March, Cozier-Duberry
2 LW - Mitoma, Adingra
3 ST - Pedro, Ferguson, Welbeck
*New signing
brighton_tom
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- Jul 23, 2008
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I would be ecstatic with that as a final squad. Cover & quality in all areas. My only question would be the lack of pace a centre back.
Frighteningly weak at Goalkeeper ( after Verbruggen ). I reckon we'll sign one.
- Jul 6, 2011
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Sorry to interrupt. Surely more of the players aged over 21 are HGP?
Rushworth, Turns, Sarmiento, Moran...