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[Misc] Kemi Badenoch confirmed as new Tory leader







WATFORD zero

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where do you get all your stuff from?
At a guess

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WATFORD zero

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I think he’s correct on this. Looks about right according to gov.uk

No he's not correct. It's a complete f***ing moronic lie that he's got from somewhere that pumps out complete f***ing moronic lies and depends on the fact that he's too stupid to check it, before repeating it.

But this is where we are. Repeat a lie enough times and and it doesn't matter that it's a complete lie, it's now all over the world. I'm well aware that I'm an old man shouting at clouds, but I get angry at this sort of shit, repeated and pumped out all over 'the media'.

Thank goodness I can sign off, with a nice glass of Carminere, a lamb chop and some green veg and spend the rest of the night with Mrs Wz in the lounge. (Even though she has the remote :wink:).

:bigwave:
 


The Clamp

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No he's not correct. It's a complete f***ing moronic lie that he's got from somewhere that pumps out complete f***ing moronic lies and depends on the fact that he's too stupid to check it, before repeating it.

But this is where we are. Repeat a lie enough times and and it doesn't matter that it's a complete lie, it's now all over the world. I'm well aware that I'm an old man shouting at clouds, but I get angry at this sort of shit, repeated and pumped out all over 'the media'.

Thank goodness I can sign off, with a nice glass of Carminere, a lamb chop and some green veg and spend the rest of the night with Mrs Wz in the lounge. (Even though she has the remote :wink:).

:bigwave:
I’m going by the gov website so you can wind your neck in and stop swearing at me please.

Go and calm down with your wife and your green vegetables.
 


WATFORD zero

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I’m going by the gov website so you can wind your neck in and stop swearing at me please.

Go and calm down with your wife and your green vegetables.

I'm sorry, I'm not swearing at you but the civil service only employ 500,000 people so to suggest that COVID caused an increase of 400,000 is complete and utter bollocks. You may want to check your sources.

I will and have a good night yourself :thumbsup:
 




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Bodian

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I’m going by the gov website so you can wind your neck in and stop swearing at me please.

Go and calm down with your wife and your green vegetables.

I'm sorry, I'm not swearing at you but the civil service only employ 500,000 people so to suggest that COVID caused an increase of 400,000 is complete and utter bollocks. You may want to check your sources.

I will and have a good night yourself :thumbsup:
@dsr-burnley referred to 'civil servants' when he seems to actually mean all 'Central Government Employees'.

These have risen from 3,349,000 in 2020 to 3,789,000 in June 2024. So - 400,000.

Central Government includes civil servants, the NHS, The Police, HMRC, Benefits Offices, DVLA, and many others.
 






Papa Lazarou

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How did the Johnson party thing come about?
Boris set a series of strict rules to abide by during the covid pandemic that he then flouted, having a number of parties and illegal gatherings. He was the caught out, denied it by lying and then eventually was removed as Prime Minister when it the Tory Party realised what a lazy, deceitful shit he was and still is.
 


The Clamp

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I'm sorry, I'm not swearing at you but the civil service only employ 500,000 people so to suggest that COVID caused an increase of 400,000 is complete and utter bollocks. You may want to check your sources.

I will and have a good night yourself :thumbsup:
Apologies.

Have a pleasant Sunday evening 👍
 


Uter

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The reason why she comes across so odd is she takes all her politics from American conservatives, like those Turning Point weirdos - she’s all learnt knowledge rather than any hard experience. A walking gaffe

I just don't understand why she's chosen to downplay and defend "party-gate". Given that a lot of people still feel incredibly strongly about this, why not (whatever her true thoughts on the matter), try and distance yourself, agree it was wrong, poorly judged and incredibly insensitive to those who suffered and obeyed the rules the government themselves imposed.

This shows incredibly bad political judgement in my view.
 




Motogull

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Boris set a series of strict rules to abide by during the covid pandemic that he then flouted, having a number of parties and illegal gatherings. He was the caught out, denied it by lying and then eventually was removed as Prime Minister when it the Tory Party realised what a lazy, deceitful shit he was and still is.
I know that. Apologies for not asking how it came to be discussed on TV this morning.
 


pb21

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I just don't understand why she's chosen to downplay and defend "party-gate". Given that a lot of people still feel incredibly strongly about this..
I think you've answered your own question.

It seems to be that the go to MO for right wing populists is to play divide and rule. I expect more of this from her as she seeks division on all kinds of woke culture war issues.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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To have any chance of winning the next election she needs to appeal to both Reform headbangers and the moderates who either didn’t vote or voted Lib Dem. I can see how she will attract the former but not the latter. She will not contest the next election; I give her two years max.
 




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That should be printed out and stuck on ballot boxes.

Obviously it can’t be, so it’s not a serious suggestion but the more people that see that the better. Maybe sticker it over the front page of the Mail instead.
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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Do you live in a parallel dimension ?
If it makes you feel good, I can.
I'd rather see Question Time as a useful tool of understanding for the watching public, rather than pathetic political theatre.
I think you know what I meant, but for those that didn't I was talking about Prime Minister's Questions, easily done being dyslexic, my apologies.
It isn't about Labour for the Tories, it's about seeing off Reform.

I honestly don't see anyone seeing off Reform, the feeling is way to strong in the Reform movement, and what I was trying to express before was I think Labour are trying to win over reform voter with their REFORM references in every interview they do, they are very aware Reform could be the ones to watch in 4 years and ????

We really need a countdown clock on this appalling new government, unfortunately they have already pushed farmers in to suicide, with their TAX, Tax and Tax some more strategy, that will ultimately cause stagnation on a scale we have never seen before.

Could you put a countdown clock up to make us all feel there is a future albeit in four year or so?

God bless us all.
 


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If it makes you feel good, I can.

I think you know what I meant, but for those that didn't I was talking about Prime Minister's Questions, easily done being dyslexic, my apologies.


I honestly don't see anyone seeing off Reform, the feeling is way to strong in the Reform movement, and what I was trying to express before was I think Labour are trying to win over reform voter with their REFORM references in every interview they do, they are very aware Reform could be the ones to watch in 4 years and ????

We really need a countdown clock on this appalling new government, unfortunately they have already pushed farmers in to suicide, with their TAX, Tax and Tax some more strategy, that will ultimately cause stagnation on a scale we have never seen before.

Could you put a countdown clock up to make us all feel there is a future albeit in four year or so?

God bless us all.
I know you meant Prime Minister's Questions. That's what I was referring to.
 


Hugo Rune

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We really need a countdown clock on this appalling new government, unfortunately they have already pushed farmers in to suicide, with their TAX, Tax and Tax some more strategy, that will ultimately cause stagnation on a scale we have never seen before.


God bless us all.
I saw the poor farmer who questioned the Chancellor on Kuenssburg this morning. She was talking about a tax bill of £1m if she inherits the business (paid over 10 years at 100k per year). Can you imagine that? Now that fact that she’d get £2m untaxed or £3m untaxed if the farm is left to her and her husband is surely irrelevant here. Tax at 20% of the estate would mean the total worth of the inheritance would be £8m. No wonder suicide is on the cards for farmers. I’m absolutely disgusted this government would want a bit of that £8m pie. I bet she works really hard.
 




Right Brain Ronnie

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I know you meant Prime Minister's Questions. That's what I was referring to.
Ok, I think Kemi will do exactly as she should by grabbing both of starmers gonads and give them the squeeze that is needed to make his vision clearer than it currently is. If she needs to spice it up to get results so be it.
This country deserves better than being put in a double straight jacket with multiple locks on it by Starmer and Reeves.
Kemi is going to have to be the countries Houdini to let us breathe again......the question is how long can the country hold it's breath for?
 


Right Brain Ronnie

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I saw the poor farmer who questioned the Chancellor on Kuenssburg this morning. She was talking about a tax bill of £1m if she inherits the business (paid over 10 years at 100k per year). Can you imagine that? Now that fact that she’d get £2m untaxed or £3m untaxed if the farm is left to her and her husband is surely irrelevant here. Tax at 20% of the estate would mean the total worth of the inheritance would be £8m. No wonder suicide is on the cards for farmers. I’m absolutely disgusted this government would want a bit of that £8m pie. I bet she works really hard.
I find it amazing how you don't pick out the farmer who killed himself over Labour poor decisions to tax people literally to death. Labour have an unbelievable misunderstanding of real life.

RIP that man and condolences to all his family.😞
 


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