yes but we need to get them on tv asap , it needs to be more in our face
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[News] A woman is a woman.
- Thread starter Leekbrookgull
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Jackthelad
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- Mar 31, 2010
- 1,312
I’m sorry to hear that happened to her. I’m certainly not saying Trans people are committing all these crimes. Yes I also in agreement with you with extreme Andrew Tait’s of this world who can make trans people unsafe with their extreme message.
mejonaNO12 aka riskit
Well-known member
I'm intersex
My wife isn't
My wife isn't
Thanks.
I'm really concerned that as a society, we have taken our collective eyes off the real dangers to women.
superseagull1994
Active member
- Jun 21, 2011
- 176
Well, I think as one of the few trans women on this board I should comment.
This will put members of my community in danger and it will cause harassment for gender non conforming women when they try to use the spaces they are legally entitled to use.
This will be the thin end of the wedge.
This will put members of my community in danger and it will cause harassment for gender non conforming women when they try to use the spaces they are legally entitled to use.
This will be the thin end of the wedge.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 19,696
I can confirm that the women I work with also feel that we are being asked to look away from those places.
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Harriet Harman, who was involved in drafting the legislation, has confirmed that this was the intention.
UK Supreme Court rules legal definition of a woman is based on biological sex
Judges say the "concept of sex is binary" while adding that transgender people will still have protection against discrimination.
www.bbc.co.uk
Clive Walker
Stand Or Fall
well there you have it ladies and gentlemen!
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Thank you for posting, and I would hope that your fears are unfounded. The judgement is very clear that everyone is still protected under the law.
Sorry to hear that
Slight off topic, but I made a rare visit out for drinks into Brighton last weekend, I noticed how few police/bouncers there was compared to a few years ago.
I'm sure a lot is on CCTV footage, but the sight of a bouncer/police officer walking around would certain put off a lot of people from doing anything scummy
Might just be a one off for that evening - edit : the number of police that is
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Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
- 7,716
The bit that makes me shake my head in despair is the judge specifically writing "We counsel against reading this judgment as a triumph of one or more groups in our society at the expense of another, it is not." Only for the leader of the opposition to immediately call it a victory and the successful litigants to pose for press photos outside the court pouring glasses of champagne. The debate, like seemingly every debate since the advent of the internet, is always adversarial and can enjoy no discussion of nuance despite the obvious need for it.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
- 17,511
I don't know enough about the topic, nor – if I'm honest – do I really care. But good luck to those of you who do one or either of those things to fight it out for the following XX number of pages without actually coming to any sort of conclusion or agreement 
JetsetJimbo
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- Jun 13, 2011
- 1,295
Gonna mute this thread after posting this, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am. This judgement will some day be seen as a source of national shame akin to Section 28, and I hope that day comes sooner rather than later.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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My hope for this thread is not conclusion or agreement but it is a chance for people to level up their understanding about this subject. Shit like this ruling relies on people's ignorance on the Topic.I don't know enough about the topic, nor – if I'm honest – do I really care. But good luck to those of you who do one or either of those things to fight it out for the following XX number of pages without actually coming to any sort of conclusion or agreement
Time to get educated so we can support those affected by it.
schmunk
Well-used member
Being a nuclear scientist is certainly not always the apex of common sense:
Louis Slotin - Wikipedia
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,432
what dont you agreee with about the ruling? not the science around sex, because it was about clarifying the law, not science.
Yeah…..good luck.
No dangly bits, bloke?
POSKETT AT THE VALLEY
Well-known member
Wasn’t that a song by Percy Sledge?
I know people are keen to explain all this in simple terms. It's not simple. And it's peoples lives we are talking about here.
If it was simple, it wouldn't have taken 88 pages to explain it.
If we all agree to protect and support people who either chose live life in a different gender, or who are naturally born into biological bodies that are alien to them, then we are doing the right thing.
This is going to be a constant debate and a war or words and terms and subjectivity. A legal ruling won't make any difference if you are a man transitioning to a woman or a woman transitioning to a man. It won't make much difference if you are non-binary. We are still faced with the challenge of creating spaces where people can be who they naturally are.
If it was simple, it wouldn't have taken 88 pages to explain it.
If we all agree to protect and support people who either chose live life in a different gender, or who are naturally born into biological bodies that are alien to them, then we are doing the right thing.
This is going to be a constant debate and a war or words and terms and subjectivity. A legal ruling won't make any difference if you are a man transitioning to a woman or a woman transitioning to a man. It won't make much difference if you are non-binary. We are still faced with the challenge of creating spaces where people can be who they naturally are.