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Thanks Icy. You put it more eloquently than me. It's because the antis are so anti and still going to extremes with their criticisms that others still feel the need to try and redress the balance and stand up for him.

I agreed that point with you. My point is that everyone still slates him a year later when he's gone and instead of wishing him well are still slating him. He did far more good than bad.

I can't argue with that Gritty and sums it up well but according to a lot of posters he was horrendous for most of the time and they don't give him the credit for the first two years. The average life span of most managers is 18 months at a club.

I think a lot depends on which players you talked to and when.

Stop talking commonsense. Nsc doesn't like that. :jester: