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Two articles from largely opposite ends of the debate, and both well worth a read. First is by Ted Rall, award-winning columnist and cartoonist, president of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists and author of The Anti-American Manifesto (2010). The Truth About 9/11 Truthers The...

spot on

Yeah I agree with most of that.

Very good question. It's very hard to say but my opinion is that it was almost certainly a mix of the two. I'd be guessing if I gave you any more detail but if you want a guess then I'd say probably more ineptitude than complicity, but that's not to completely dismiss the complicity aspect.

Well, yes, that's a fair point too, although in my defence, those quotes are only intended to highlight the lack of credibility of the commission report, and are not supposed to demonstrate proof of a conspiracy.

Yeah that's a fair point. The thing is, I'm not saying that I know exactly what happened - I don't - but I am saying that the official story cannot be taken seriously because it contains so many inconsistencies, distortions and ommissions, as to be almost laughable. You see, no-one is denying...

Uncle S, that's just incorrect. Bin Laden denied responsibility, and the US authorities have never had anything resembling a case against him. If you don't believe me, take a look at the FBI's OBL 10 most wanted poster, it mentions the attacks in Africa, but no mention of 9/11, because they...

Well if the thread was inappropriate then why didn't the mods take it down last week? Has the Wizard been banned for starting it? I hope not. But the thing is, I've not been posting 'crap', as you put it, have I? I'm not espousing far-fetched theories about ghost aircraft or missiles. I've...

I'm sorry for your loss, champion7. I also have friends that were deeply affected by the atrocity. No, we will never, ever forget. God bless your brother and God bless you too.

Oh do me a favour! Really, don't make me laugh. :lol: I took a look at your profile page mate, and - to my utter amazement - it states that you're 55 years old!?!? 55 years old?!?! At least this gives me an insight into why you write like an angry teenager - because you're just an angry old...

Oh dear, you're just not gonna let this lie, are you? Exactly as I said before: you have nothing of substance to add, so you throw insults. We can all throw insults mate, but I'll try to be a little more constructive: You're a troll. You're in the top 5 NSC trolls. You waste unfathomable...

Amen.

Well thanks for your well thought out contribution. It must've taken you hours to come up with that. :facepalm: Trying to have a reasoned debate with you is a bit like showing a dog a card trick.

Is pretty much the size of it, sadly.

I understand that your message wasn't all directed at me, not least because I don't doubt that they were planes that hit the towers, but I will try to respond to some of these points anyway, in peace. I watched it all live from my apartment in Orange County, CA. I got woken up by a mate...

no problem :)

I can't say that you're deluded Uncle S because you haven't really offered up any substantive points, but you are, of course, equally entitled to your opinion, your sickness, and your anger.

Well thanks for your contribution to the debate, Uncle S. Can I get you anything? A bucket or a punch-bag perhaps? OK, so what about us? What about the people who don't believe that elements of the regime did it, but may have allowed it to happen? Maybe they didn't intend for the towers to come...

I'm sure you're right about some people Sergei, but I'm very happy to be proven wrong. I have changed my mind about lots of important things in my life and I'm sure I will continue to do so. I think it's an important part of mental and spiritual evolution, to be open to changing your mind about...

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