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[Football] Are we the baddies?
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It’s a Faustian Pact with the devil that is money if you want to operate at this level. Probably quite a lot of fans aren’t comfortable about that but you just get dragged along with it.
I do believe the average fan at non-league level will enjoy their football as much as the average fan of an EPL club
I do believe the average fan at non-league level will enjoy their football as much as the average fan of an EPL club
I live in Warwick and have kids who do sport at weekends so struggle to get to many home matches. I go to far more non-league football. I love it. I can’t wait to go to Leamington tomorrow for a game that my national league north side have to win - level on points with kiddie with two games to go. I don’t think we have won at leam for over a decade and it is great fun. No segregation tomorrow so can watch with my Leam supporting mate and we can have a beer if we fancy it. Park at the ground. Get home quickly. Kick offs are 3pm on Saturdays and 7.45 of Tuesday match. Some bank holiday football. What’s not to love?
American Seagle
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Would also bet they would be complaining about lack of investment in the squad it not paying enough for players or keeping their top players when big offers come in.
It works both ways.
It's not so much the baddies as the underisbables. To a degree, anyway.
The Albion, like all Premier League clubs, talk about the local (generally season ticket-holding) supporter as being a "legacy fan".
Legacy fans, when measured at an individual fixture level, don't bring in much cash. A legacy fan may buy a replica shirt each season, and a few other bit of merch too.
Each tourist fan will buy a shirt, a scarf, a mug and All. The. Stuff when they visit.
This means a seat filled with 19 tourists over the course of a season is going to generate far more for the club than that same seat filled with a man who lives 10 miles away.
Nineteen tourists > One legacy fan.
This is why some (BIG!) clubs have stopped selling season tickets, holding back seats received back from lapsed season ticket holders. They want to sell that seat 19 times over rather than once.
As much as we've all noticed the influx of Japanese fans as Mitoma Mania has taken off, we're still small fry when it comes to tourist fans, so the legacy fan is still very important to the Albion today.
The Albion, like all Premier League clubs, talk about the local (generally season ticket-holding) supporter as being a "legacy fan".
Legacy fans, when measured at an individual fixture level, don't bring in much cash. A legacy fan may buy a replica shirt each season, and a few other bit of merch too.
Each tourist fan will buy a shirt, a scarf, a mug and All. The. Stuff when they visit.
This means a seat filled with 19 tourists over the course of a season is going to generate far more for the club than that same seat filled with a man who lives 10 miles away.
Nineteen tourists > One legacy fan.
This is why some (BIG!) clubs have stopped selling season tickets, holding back seats received back from lapsed season ticket holders. They want to sell that seat 19 times over rather than once.
As much as we've all noticed the influx of Japanese fans as Mitoma Mania has taken off, we're still small fry when it comes to tourist fans, so the legacy fan is still very important to the Albion today.
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Non-league football has been taking off in a big way since Covid. That's the way I read it anyway. This year's thread on here has had 112k views.
Covid was the unfortunate, but perfect storm for the lower league game. Folk have been going along and enjoying the experience. And keep going.
Average attendances: 2018-19 v 2024-25
National League: 1984 v 2496 (26%)
National League South: 877 v 1173 (33%)
Isthmian Premier: 394 v 734 (86%)
Isthmian South- East: 223 v 323 (45%)
I love a good stat me.
You can add caveats, but that tells me that more folk are going through the turnstiles. And they are coming from somewhere.
Does anyone use this site ? I love it. A good place to get lost. A Hastings volunteer told me about it a few years back. All non-league clubs are obliged by rule to keep it updated.
www.footballwebpages.co.uk
Covid was the unfortunate, but perfect storm for the lower league game. Folk have been going along and enjoying the experience. And keep going.
Average attendances: 2018-19 v 2024-25
National League: 1984 v 2496 (26%)
National League South: 877 v 1173 (33%)
Isthmian Premier: 394 v 734 (86%)
Isthmian South- East: 223 v 323 (45%)
I love a good stat me.
You can add caveats, but that tells me that more folk are going through the turnstiles. And they are coming from somewhere.
Does anyone use this site ? I love it. A good place to get lost. A Hastings volunteer told me about it a few years back. All non-league clubs are obliged by rule to keep it updated.
Live Football Scores and the Latest News | Football Web Pages
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www.footballwebpages.co.uk
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If it's about pure enjoyment from watching football I enjoyed watching us in the Championship the most (in recent times, I'm a relative JCL to be fair).
I do feel lucky when I travel abroad and the locals tell me it's one of their dreams to actually go to a Premier League game. To me, it's half an hour on the train from Eastbourne and I'm walking up the slope to the Amex. I suppose I'm lucky, but sometimes it doesn't feel like it.
I do feel lucky when I travel abroad and the locals tell me it's one of their dreams to actually go to a Premier League game. To me, it's half an hour on the train from Eastbourne and I'm walking up the slope to the Amex. I suppose I'm lucky, but sometimes it doesn't feel like it.
But less lucky when you're in the six-hour queue to get a train back home?
At least we have many, many thousand long term supporters, not just middle age folk … passing down the gens. Clubs like Arsenal have entirely different attendees from 25 years ago, the original supporters were priced out and replaced by Ruperts and Tarquins. The club Boards didn’t give a flying **** about them.
Those bloody underisbables, where were they when we played at Dithwean and Friestpield, eh?
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Non-league football has been taking off in a big way since Covid. That's the way I read it anyway. This year's thread on here has had 112k views.
Covid was the unfortunate, but perfect storm for the lower league game. Folk have been going along and enjoying the experience. And keep going.
Average attendances: 2018-19 v 2024-25
National League: 1984 v 2496 (26%)
National League South: 877 v 1173 (33%)
Isthmian Premier: 394 v 734 (86%)
Isthmian South- East: 223 v 323 (45%)
I love a good stat me.
You can add caveats, but that tells me that more folk are going through the turnstiles. And they are coming from somewhere.
Does anyone use this site ? I love it. A good place to get lost. A Hastings volunteer told me about it a few years back. All non-league clubs are obliged by rule to keep it updated.
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These are a good stat.
I enjoy the TV show greatly.
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Up the Town!
On a more serious note, I might see you there. Off on holiday for a few days tomorrow and my wife is stressing that there is too much to do when there really isn't. Assuming I can navigate that hurdle, see you there.
Say hello if you see me. I will wear my olive hoodie with BHAFC in the front. Will be with my lad. We are both over 6 foot. If we meet my mate he is also over 6 foot with a young lad.
Up the Town!
On a more serious note, I might see you there. Off on holiday for a few days tomorrow and my wife is stressing that there is too much to do when there really isn't. Assuming I can navigate that hurdle, see you there.
Although my wife just showed me the weather forecast so it will be warm coats - my lad probably in KLHC coach waterproof.
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Barryseagulls
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I think that applies a lot more to the global clubs but Brighton are mainly locals or st least people that were born in Sussex even if they don’t live in Brighton and hove.
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That's me. Black shirt. Probably be in a Black Wardens hoodie with me lad.
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Non-league football has been taking off in a big way since Covid. That's the way I read it anyway. This year's thread on here has had 112k views.
Covid was the unfortunate, but perfect storm for the lower league game. Folk have been going along and enjoying the experience. And keep going.
Average attendances: 2018-19 v 2024-25
National League: 1984 v 2496 (26%)
National League South: 877 v 1173 (33%)
Isthmian Premier: 394 v 734 (86%)
Isthmian South- East: 223 v 323 (45%)
I love a good stat me.
You can add caveats, but that tells me that more folk are going through the turnstiles. And they are coming from somewhere.
Does anyone use this site ? I love it. A good place to get lost. A Hastings volunteer told me about it a few years back. All non-league clubs are obliged by rule to keep it updated.
Live Football Scores and the Latest News | Football Web Pages
Live Football Scores, League Tables, Form Guides, Attendances, Latest News and other stats from the Premier League, Football League and Non-League football
My Saturday night viewing that website, love looking at all the attendance and goal scorers.
I am what they call a legacy fan as I would and have watched and attended palace in 3 divisions, it doesn’t need to be the top division I would go anyway, but in the last 7 or 8 years a few of us have started watching East grinstead both home and away and if we are honest we enjoy it more.
I have found professional football with all this passing around the back for no real purpose very boring…yes I am old fashioned. But take when palace were down to 9 players and Brighton were passing it around the back 4 with 10 minutes left instead of balls into the box…..get the fxxking ball in the mixer, and win the second ball.
From having a teenage son whose friends have started going to Worthing in a big way I can tell you there’s 2 factors that are getting teens under 18 along to non-league:
First the cost. These lads can pay for tickets from their pocket money or paper round money etc.
Second is the freedom for them. There’s so few spaces for teens under drinking age to go muck about these days. Go mess about in the park and they’ll get police along for being anti-social. Pretty much every other space they have to pay through the nose to go to. They go to non-league and can jump around and shout and be boisterous and it’s not considered the worst thing in the world.
First the cost. These lads can pay for tickets from their pocket money or paper round money etc.
Second is the freedom for them. There’s so few spaces for teens under drinking age to go muck about these days. Go mess about in the park and they’ll get police along for being anti-social. Pretty much every other space they have to pay through the nose to go to. They go to non-league and can jump around and shout and be boisterous and it’s not considered the worst thing in the world.
tronnogull
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It's not just the cost.
If I wasn't addicted to Brighton and Hove Albion I would have no interest at all in the Premier League. There is so much about it which is horrible........TV companies controlling fixture dates and times, so many dickhead players with outrageous wages making them out of touch with their fans, diving, rolling around shot on the pitch, the awful expansion of european football to the detriment of domestic football making prem clubs less focused on their home league, and, biggest one of all.....VAR which sucks the joy out of the game. These are off the top of my head, others will come to mind.
But......I am addicted to Brighton and Hove Albion and will continue supporting them home and away.
If I wasn't addicted to Brighton and Hove Albion I would have no interest at all in the Premier League. There is so much about it which is horrible........TV companies controlling fixture dates and times, so many dickhead players with outrageous wages making them out of touch with their fans, diving, rolling around shot on the pitch, the awful expansion of european football to the detriment of domestic football making prem clubs less focused on their home league, and, biggest one of all.....VAR which sucks the joy out of the game. These are off the top of my head, others will come to mind.
But......I am addicted to Brighton and Hove Albion and will continue supporting them home and away.
Sorry I never spotted you. Good win for Brackley on a terrible pitch so it was just hoofball. Nice for my mate to score the second goal. He had a good game in the battle with Edwards. Best team won.
Sadly kiddie won 5-1 against Hereford so now we need to win on sat and hope that kiddie don’t win at Southport. Looks like play offs again. So we can have 8 failures in 9 at those.