[Albion] Brajan Gruda **SINGED 14 Aug 2024**

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

This always baffles me when you read any of these transfer rumours that clubs discuss / agree terms with a player before even approaching the club - what happened to the rules about illegal approach ?!

Player intermediary speaks with club intermediary. I expect there are a hundred ways around this rule if it is even a rule (never been bothered to check).

 

[West Upper Seagull]

Player intermediary speaks with club intermediary. I expect there are a hundred ways around this rule if it is even a rule (never been bothered to check).

Clearly - but it’s strange you never see any clubs kicking a stink up about their players being tapped up !

 

[Mancgull]

What’s becoming clear to me is that Hürzeler wants to use his St Pauli tactics and formation on our squad. For this to happen, we need a new midfield.

Like with Potter when he favoured centre midfielders as wingers and centre backs as full backs, Hürzeler has some unique challenges for the recruitment team to solve.

But, as with Hughton, Potter and RDZ there is one man who is essential in midfield. Pascal Groß. If Hürzeler was not desperate for him to stay, he’d be a Dortmund player by now.

We’ve been after a player like Gruda for some time with failed bids for KDH and Rutter. We are clearly looking for someone to play attacking midfield (left footed if possible) who’ll bag up on assists and goals. I’m incredibly hopeful that Groß is the man for that this season and that he’ll stay. Hopefully Gruda would be the long term replacement as he is so young.

Yes, I see this player as another option for attacking midfield in the same vein as KDH and Rutter. He’s not an out and out winger from the clips I’ve seen of him.
I also think that ideally we should be looking to get another year from Pascal and the deal for him would be that we let him go for nothing at the end of this season to get a nice big signing on fee for the 2025/26 season in Germany.
Gruda appears to have played at all youth to U21 levels for Germany and it won’t be long until he gets called up for a full cap. Ideal time to get him in.
A German speaking coach will certainly assist in him settling in. Can see this one being our record signing with Undav, Moder , Sima, and possibly WBG on the way out to balance the books.

 

[Whitechapel]

Clearly - but it’s strange you never see any clubs kicking a stink up about their players being tapped up !

I think every club just realises that spending weeks negotiating over a transfer move that might never happen is a waste of everyone’s time.

Imagine how many people have to work on negotiating a fee, working out add-ons, how much is paid up front etc etc, finally agreeing a fee and then the player turns around and says “nah, you’re alright”.

It’s better for both clubs to know where they stand with the player most of the time.

 

[elwheelio]

This always baffles me when you read any of these transfer rumours that clubs discuss / agree terms with a player before even approaching the club - what happened to the rules about illegal approach ?!

I think it's probably the intermediaries/agents agreeing hypothetical deals and then the clubs getting involved once details are in place. Perhaps that's how they avoid censure.

 

[The Fits]

Worth remembering Gross joined us as a midfielder who preferred drifting out to the right. From what I've read and seen of this kid he isn't your typical, head down winger. Often at that age the key skill they lack is their decision making. Feels more like a Wirtz or Szoboszlai- a player who's passing and decision making are as effective as their ability running with the ball. Players who's progressive passing is equal to their progressive carrying. A player who looks absolutely suited to a Fab set up.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Indeed, according to L'Equipe, Auxerre, Lens, Nantes, Stade Reims, Montpellier, Brest, Le Havre and Angers are all at risk of going bankrupt. That's 8 teams, from an 18 team league. If it wasn't a farmers league before, it sure will be if all those teams go tits up.

Surely any tits up French farmer's league would have to include Brest? And probably Angers too.

 

[Baldseagull]

Are the rules on tapping up no longer a thing?. All these Twitter rumour mongers report on sound like illegal approaches to me.

They exist, but most of the time, no one bothers. Last one I recall where a club made a complaint was Saints over Liverpool approaching Van Dyke. I think Saints accepted an apology from Liverpool in the end, because no one wants the rule enforced strictly, in that case saints felt Liverpool were being too aggressive about it.

 

[SeagullinExile]

This always baffles me when you read any of these transfer rumours that clubs discuss / agree terms with a player before even approaching the club - what happened to the rules about illegal approach ?!

It isn’t unusual for a club to give a player permission to talk to other clubs.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Yes, I see this player as another option for attacking midfield in the same vein as KDH and Rutter. He’s not an out and out winger from the clips I’ve seen of him.
I also think that ideally we should be looking to get another year from Pascal and the deal for him would be that we let him go for nothing at the end of this season to get a nice big signing on fee for the 2025/26 season in Germany.
Gruda appears to have played at all youth to U21 levels for Germany and it won’t be long until he gets called up for a full cap. Ideal time to get him in.
A German speaking coach will certainly assist in him settling in. Can see this one being our record signing with Undav, Moder , Sima, and possibly WBG on the way out to balance the books.

Brilliant plan and hopefully one that suits everyone.

Screw the £6m we might get this summer. Hürzeler is very clearly desperate for him. In fact, on the togetherBHA podcast, Uwe Hünemeier stated that Fabian had been in touch with Groß in the past to discuss RDZ tactics etc.

At 34, Groß could still have another 4 years top level football in him as his key attributes which are positioning, stamina, footballing brain and technique won’t be as affected by age as other common attributes such as pace.

 

[Peppermint Tea]

Surely any tits up French farmer's league would have to include Brest? And probably Angers too.

Progressive club, Angers. They don’t look back.

 

[Bald Head]

Progressive club, Angers. They don’t look back.

From what i hear they have an Oasis of talent.

 

[borat]

Watched some highlights and his style reminds me of Trossard. Perhaps slightly more direct with his running.

 

[Eeyore]

Progressive club, Angers. They don’t look back.

Their strikers don't work very hard and stay up field a lot.

Goal Angers

 

[Hugo Rune]

Watched some highlights and his style reminds me of Trossard. Perhaps slightly more direct with his running.

I think that is a great comparison.

I think Trossard’s passing was always underestimated here but that’s what makes him so much more than a winger.

This potential signing demonstrates a very high quality and varied passing technique in his showreels. From delicate through balls in a central position to lobbed cross field balls or dangerous crosses, the player demonstrates a very high window of attainment. I’m wondering if he could be stronger on the ball than Trossard with the ability to hold the play up in the centre of the pitch more effectively?

 

[borat]

I think that is a great comparison.

I think Trossard’s passing was always underestimated here but that’s what makes him so much more than a winger.

This potential signing demonstrates a very high quality and varied passing technique in his showreels. From delicate through balls in a central position to lobbed cross field balls or dangerous crosses, the player demonstrates a very high window of attainment. I’m wondering if he could be stronger on the ball than Trossard with the ability to hold the play up in the centre of the pitch more effectively?

I think Trossard was strong enough on the ball - what I feel let him down on occasion was overdoing things. He would beat his man or get in a good position and then try and do it again. I'm getting the sense Gruda is that little bit more direct when it comes to final decision making.

 

[Mancgull]

Has got a hell of a shot on him. That left footed rocket is almost up there with the AliMac ‘goal’ v Leicester.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

He sounds keen!

Looks like a cross between Cole Palmer and a monk.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Looks like a cross between Cole Palmer and a monk.

Let’s pray we sign him.

 

[dazzer6666]

Clearly - but it’s strange you never see any clubs kicking a stink up about their players being tapped up !

Because they are doing exactly the same themselves