[Football] De Zerbi offers to resign as Marseilles coach

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Han Solo

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Paulie Gualtieri

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What ever you think of De Zerbi, he allowed us to dream and his contribution elevated us as a club. I genuinely believe although the summers transfer activity was driven primarily by the PSR cycle, Tone got a taste of how good things could be first hand and it was this also that made him invest in the squad as much as he did. This wouldn’t have happened without RDZ.

He’s our greatest ever manager, a maverick but equally a nutter, it was never going to last but I’m grateful for his efforts and that he left on good terms with the fan base at least
 
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This again. Repeatedly described as "the one night stand that is above your level", "the quick, sweaty hot shag that leaves you asking for more" etc.

For those of you interested in having a hot one night stand or summer romance or whatever: come over to Sweden, let me show you around and you'll drop the whole "I'd like a sweaty melancholic middle-aged Italian man who mumbles about testicles" for much more enticing fantasies...
You are on fire tonight HS! 😂
 




Doug-ees-evil

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This is so wearing….

Hughton kept us up in many ways against the odds. Defensive but very necessary.

Potter improved the style, and although we struggled for a couple of seasons, he laid the foundations, and then had that leap in the final 6 months over the end of one season and the beginning of the next.

RdZ took it further again, great football, amazing European adventure, until the final 3 months there wasn’t a lot not to like…..

You cannot have any of the above without the other.

In my 50 years of supporting I never thought we’d be in Europe and I am eternally grateful to all of them, because I loved the trips abroad….

A very balanced and accurate summary.
Although I sometimes think Hughton does not get enough credit for getting us promoted in the first place from the 'hardest league in the world to get out of'.

In terms of the best football, for me it's RdZ by a very large margin. From about 2 months into the job and just before the 3 month sulk period it was champagne football, but winning/effective football – that delivered the club's highest ever recorded league position and a first European campaign that we will all remember with joy until our days are done.

I'll never forget that home match against Klopp's Liverpool (3-0 I think), but it could have been 5 or 6. Scintillating, pioneering football, just total control and perfection from every player, every flowing move. I left games with my jaw on the floor at some of the stuff little old Brighton played in peak RdZ. Loved how he turned Solly into the top player we all knew was there. Certainly, he built on some fantastic Potter foundations, but RdZ took it to another level entirely that I personally feel Potter would not have done. He made us and the management genuinely believe in bat-shit-crazy ambitions and elevated what we thought was possible. For me, our greatest ever manager for that short, wonderful period that it lasted.

As for RdZ's enduring popularity, as other posters have said, it was for all of the above and his connection with the supporters that felt genuine, unique and special. He just understood fans, their passion, sacrifices and dedication to the club. Geniunely think he loved the city, the staff, his players (mostly) and the fans – and that's quite a rare thing these days. I never really felt it was much about money with him, just success/glory/being better/smoking fags/watching-living-breathing football... (although granted it was quite often about HIM).

He is flawed in so many ways, that I don't need to repeat the personal and professional failings again here. Totally agree that he must have been a 'kin nightmare to manage and Uncle Tone and PBOBE deserve all the plaudits for how they handled the end. But aren't all super-talented maverick types flawed? It's kind of why we love characters like that. I mean, my favourite player of all time is Zidane... and he headbutted someone in a World Cup final! :D The way football is being sanitised, monetized and over-commercialised, it could probably do with a few more DeZerbi's.. not less.
 
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Han Solo

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This is so wearing….

Hughton kept us up in many ways against the odds. Defensive but very necessary.

Potter improved the style, and although we struggled for a couple of seasons, he laid the foundations, and then had that leap in the final 6 months over the end of one season and the beginning of the next.

RdZ took it further again, great football, amazing European adventure, until the final 3 months there wasn’t a lot not to like…..

You cannot have any of the above without the other.

In my 50 years of supporting I never thought we’d be in Europe and I am eternally grateful to all of them, because I loved the trips abroad….
Shouldn't be wearing for you since you're a reasonable human and shouldn't get involved in this at all. :lol:
 


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It's important to look at stats though. I know, I know.

The average points per game after Potter left in the 22/23 season would have had Albion finish in 10th when reflected across the season. There was only three points separating 6th-9th.

We did have some exciting wins, including a first at Chelsea. But Potter has also delivered victories at Arsenal and Tottenham the season before, when in the second half Albion showed Champions League form.

But had Albion not qualified for Europe RDZ would have been seen differently. Exciting football at times, indeed, but a very unpredictable manager who was never going to be here for long and, quite frankly, got on my nerves.

So, yes, an Integral part of our success, but, my, I was happy when he left. And quite why some were unhappy about him leaving when in the second half of last season, despite only two European matches, Albion were 17th in the form table, I don't know.

What's happening at Marseille is just rinse and repeat. It was exciting, but Souness was right.
I’m not sure you know what Souness actually said here is a snippet,
RDZ won’t be successful in the PL as he doesn’t know the English game, Brighton should appoint Dyche a manager who knows the PL.
 




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I’m not sure you know what Souness actually said here is a snippet,
RDZ won’t be successful in the PL as he doesn’t know the English game, Brighton should appoint Dyche a manager who knows the PL.
However mental you think RDZ is he’s never going to be as mental as Graeme “Turkey Teeth” Souness.
 


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I’m not sure you know what Souness actually said here is a snippet,
RDZ won’t be successful in the PL as he doesn’t know the English game, Brighton should appoint Dyche a manager who knows the PL.
I'm referring to the bit where Souness questioned how many clubs he had in such a short time. At the time, the logic was questioned. But subsequently it does appear that his CV will be taking up a lot of paper.
 


Paulie Gualtieri

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I'm referring to the bit where Souness questioned how many clubs he had in such a short time. At the time, the logic was questioned. But subsequently it does appear that his CV will be taking up a lot of paper.
There’s a clip somewhere where he says this to Simon Jordan on TS, who reminds he there was a period when Sourness had more clubs that RDZ from memory and he didn’t take it well at all
 




jackalbion

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Lines up almost exactly with how long De Zerbi lasts at each club.
I think you’ve just got to look at the “smaller clubs” who’ve got Europe and I don’t think there’s been many that’s ever done it too years in a row. I think Southampton around 2016 ish are about the only one. Stoke failed, Wigan definitely failed, Swansea failed, Burnley failed, Hull failed, even that fantastic Fulham side who got to the final, had to use the fair play table to qualify for a second year. It’s no easy task.
 


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Interestingly, if Albion can pick up 11 points from their next 8 matches they will have matched RDZ's points per match ratio in that 2022/23 season. Probably won't be enough this time though.

As I said, I thought the football was exciting at times, but I never felt he would hang around and he said a lot of stuff that really irked me. I also felt he was disrespectful at times and seemed to act like he was doing the club a favour. Nothing that has happened at Marseille has surprised me.

It may be much duller now, but the results when compared to the Europe qualification season are very much similar and we have a manager who clearly respects the club.
 
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Nottseagull

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Mansfield Woodhouse, actually.
Its true, I haven't been to a game. I've followed everything the club does and I've talked with Brighton fans on a daily basis - often many hours - for six years though, so I feel confident in being able to talk about the fans I interact with 5 hours a day and the club I watch several teams a week and read most news and articles about.

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So you're admitting to being the Swede with 20,000+ posts. Aren't you banned from NSC?
 






Black Rod

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Hurzeler has lost two out of two against Palace. Potter never won a game against Palace.

If RDZ leaves Marseille, any chance we can get him in just to manage the Palace games?
 




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He won’t get the chance to resign as he’s probably about to get sacked. Another bad defeat today - 3.0 to Monaco who move above them in the table.

If only he realised how good he had it here before he started acting like a twat.
True, after Rome he should have eaten humble pie and kept his head down. I loved him before he went rogue. I’d love to see what he could have done with our summer signings if he’d kept humble
 






Han Solo

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He won’t get the chance to resign as he’s probably about to get sacked.
Noooooo :(

I need my lighthearted entertainment from Marseille games and their forum. A good one from yesterday:

"There are times that I particularly hate, like the current one where the club has given full powers to a man who, according to his Wikipedia page, has won nothing. We agree, even a 6th place with Brighton in 2022-2023 is not a title.

This man is taking an entire club and its thousands of supporters hostage, with a bomb in his hand. His bombshell is "either I play the possession game and you give me the means to do it, or I break"."


:lol:
As someone who dislikes both De Zerbi and Marseille, I want this marriage to continue for another year.
 


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