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[Football] Relegation candidates next season



Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
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Surrey
I was just thinking, assuming the bottom three are relegated, are there any teams in the Premier league now who might offer some hope to any teams coming up?

To me, none of the rest of the teams look like they're remotely bad enough to struggle. I do wonder about Brentford if they lose a couple of key players, but they're too well run. Wolves will be better next season - they've been far too good to worry about relegation as it is.

I'm going to whisper this one quietly: how about Spurs? They are well run commercially but on the pitch they are absolutely clueless. Sadly, they'd still have to drop off massively to find themselves in any more trouble than Wolves were this season.
 




Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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I was just thinking, assuming the bottom three are relegated, are there any teams in the Premier league now who might offer some hope to any teams coming up?

To me, none of the rest of the teams look like they're remotely bad enough to struggle. I do wonder about Brentford if they lose a couple of key players, but they're too well run. Wolves will be better next season - they've been far too good to worry about relegation as it is.

I'm going to whisper this one quietly: how about Spurs? They are well run commercially but on the pitch they are absolutely clueless. Sadly, they'd still have to drop off massively to find themselves in any more trouble than Wolves were this season.
Nah. Get rid of Lou Carpenter and be back in the 6-10th bracket

Bloke is the worst PL manager I've seen at Spurs, one of the worst I've seen in the PL, from a player welfare point he might be the worst.

A mixture of being tactically inept, arrogance built on nothing and actively doesn't care if he hurts players

I miss Christian Gross
 






Arkwright

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Oct 26, 2010
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Caterham, Surrey
B'Muff ? - I can see them getting raided for a lot of their squad this summer.
If they get "raided", surely it's no different to us and all they will do is reinvest.
Going back to next season the three promoted sides will be clear favourites to go straight back down. The gap between the Premier and Championship is just far too big.
 




Mustafa II

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Oct 14, 2022
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Hove
It's rare to have a bottom three that are so much worse than the rest of the league, that the relegation battle has been over by March, like this season.

I doubt the same will be the case next season.

There are other bad teams in the league - I think the relegation spots next season will be determined which of the teams coming up will do well, rather than which of the current crop are crap.

Spurs, Everton, etc will probably be alright again. Smaller teams that have a poor transfer window are most at risk. Bournemouth, Palace, Wolves, Brentford.

I think we'll be alright even if we have a poor transfer window. We have too much quality these days.
 


Simster

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Jul 7, 2003
55,642
Surrey
A little shout out for West Ham too.

They might need a goalscorer, and we all know how it is under Potter with lots of sideways passing and possession if you haven't got incisive front players.

But even then they've got 2 or 3 quality players like Kudus. They'd have sell him for silly money and not replace him properly for them to be in serious trouble.
 






One Teddy Maybank

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It's rare to have a bottom three that are so much worse than the rest of the league, that the relegation battle has been over by March, like this season.

I doubt the same will be the case next season.

There are other bad teams in the league - I think the relegation spots next season will be determined which of the teams coming up will do well, rather than which of the current crop are crap.

Spurs, Everton, etc will probably be alright again. Smaller teams that have a poor transfer window are most at risk. Bournemouth, Palace, Wolves, Brentford.

I think we'll be alright even if we have a poor transfer window. We have too much quality these days.
It’s true, but this time last season Leicester seemed to be doing what Leeds are doing, was Maresca really the difference?

Leeds do look strong, but so did Burnley under Kompany, it’s difficult to look past the promoted teams, plus Wolves as we stand, if Palace, Brentford lose a couple and don’t replace then they could get sucked in.

West Ham, if they don’t invest to help Potter they could struggle.
 


Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,642
Surrey
Nah. Get rid of Lou Carpenter and be back in the 6-10th bracket

Bloke is the worst PL manager I've seen at Spurs, one of the worst I've seen in the PL, from a player welfare point he might be the worst.

A mixture of being tactically inept, arrogance built on nothing and actively doesn't care if he hurts players

I miss Christian Gross
6th - 10th bracket? 😆😆😆

You're miles off that, even without the plump Neighbours icon running things. How many of your team would get into the Bournemouth first XI, for example? Two at most I would guess.
 






Hugo Rune

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B'Muff ? - I can see them getting raided for a lot of their squad this summer.
They’ll absolutely be selling talent but I think they are copying another south coast club’s transfer market techniques.

They will do it in a strategic way and will absolutely not lose most of their squad. I’d guess it would be a maximum of 3 players for £100m+. Perhaps these:

Dean Huijsen

Justin Kluivert

Antoine Semenyo


They have fully formed succession plans in place which I imagine, will guarantee them a top 10 finish next season.


Very poor judgement to underestimate this lot. Thank goodness the likes of Bloom and Hürzeler don’t!
 
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Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Nah. Get rid of Lou Carpenter and be back in the 6-10th bracket

Bloke is the worst PL manager I've seen at Spurs, one of the worst I've seen in the PL, from a player welfare point he might be the worst.

A mixture of being tactically inept, arrogance built on nothing and actively doesn't care if he hurts players

I miss Christian Gross
I was talking about Spurs the other day with someone, if we had signed Brennan Johnson for £50m I would have thought TB was starting to lose the plot. Bang average winger in this league.
Levy the business man outside of football maybe, he is one of the worst when it comes to making footballing decisions.
 


Hugo Rune

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Well, it will be Leeds, Bumley and Sheffield United.

Lovely if it were Spuds, Palarse and Madchester United, though.
Never going to happen sadly.
True but if Man City are forced to take one of this season’s 3 relegation spots as punishment for their incessant cheating over the years, the surviving Ipswich or Leicester would have to be in the conversation for relegation next season.
 




A1X

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There’s always someone from the mid-table pack who gets their summer wrong (poor managerial change, bad signings) and drops toward the danger zone. This could feasibly be anyone outside the plastic 6. Complacency is dangerous in this regard.
 


One Teddy Maybank

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They’ll absolutely be selling talent but I think they are copying another club!

They will do it in a strategic way and will absolutely not lose most of their squad. I’d guess it would be a maximum of 3 players for £100m+. Perhaps these:

Dean Huijsen

Justin Kluivert

Antoine Semenyo


They have fully formed succession plan in place which I imagine, will guarantee them a top 10 finish next season.


Very poor judgement to underestimate this lot. Thank goodness the likes of Bloom and Hürzeler don’t!
Agree.
Best team to play at The Amex IMO

Edit - other than us….😃
 


Zeus

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I reckon the big shock could be Forest if they have Champions league football to contend and less luck with injuries with their relatively small squad.

Other than something left field like that the other non big 6 just seem too well run and recruitment too smart to be at risk from anyone coming up.
 


abc

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Jan 6, 2007
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I think West Ham and Palace could struggle because of their lack of a coherant recruitment strategy. Then the smaller clubs (Bmouth, Fulham,Brentford, us etc) that make it into Europe could find the league challenging if injuries pile up. The same for Forest if they make champions league.

The only one I will be hoping get relegated is Leeds.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
Oct 8, 2003
59,130
Faversham
I was talking about Spurs the other day with someone, if we had signed Brennan Johnson for £50m I would have thought TB was starting to lose the plot. Bang average winger in this league.
Levy the business man outside of football maybe, he is one of the worst when it comes to making footballing decisions.
Best stadium on the country,
Till this season, up there, often in the Champions' league
The Australian is a mistake, sure, and no doubt he won't be there next season.
I'm not sure why Spurs are so Spursy, but all Levy does on the football side is appoint the manager and pay the bills
(with someone else's money - he's not the actual owner: ENIC Group (formerly English National Investment Company) is a British investment company. ENIC is owned by the family trust of Joe Lewis. ENIC's Bahamas-registered subsidiary, ENIC International Limited, currently holds 86.58% of the total issued share capital of English Premier League club Tottenham Hotspur. Club chairman Daniel Levy and his family own 29.88% of the share capital of ENIC International Limited, while a discretionary trust of Lewis's family owns 70.12%).

I am struggling to think of any CEO who might be classed as 'one of the worst when making footballing decisions'.
Whoever has been calling the tune at ManU seems to have turned the club from a title winning machine into a joke,
but even they have won cups.

I think you'd probably need to start trawling in the lower reaches of the Championship and league 1 if you are looking for CEOs who are genuinely bad. Anyone who can keep a club afloat, and certainly anyone who can keep a club safely in the EPL is doing a decent job almost by definition.

Maybe you think that big clubs like Spurs should be winning lots of trophies? ???
The more interesting question is how they became and remain a big club, perhaps.
 
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