[Albion] Bart Verbruggen SINGS a 5-year deal

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Yes an absolutely terrible pass which put us on the back foot with 7 Brentford players pushing forwards against our 6 in our third leading to a goal.

That's fine, but the re telling of what happened is my issue

My issue was according to some he had passed the ball to a forward "in front of goal" and had basically caused the goal. I disagree. It doesn't hide it was an error but I don't think we will comment each time a player gives the ball away near the halfway line.

As you say, there were 6 back. I've actually counted 7 outfield players and verbruggen so we actually gave the ball away, near the halfway line, and then faced an attack with 8 of 11 players back against 6 Brentford players.

It's an error. It's a bad error. It didn't "cause" the goal. There was plenty of ability to stop it and it eventually went in via a deflection. He certainly didn't "give a goal away". I agree it's a mistake though.

 

[Weststander]

Hermansen prevented a big loss. Is he any good, worth an Albion punt?

 

[P.C. Beard]

That's fine, but the re telling of what happened is my issue

My issue was according to some he had passed the ball to a forward "in front of goal" and had basically caused the goal. I disagree. It doesn't hide it was an error but I don't think we will comment each time a player gives the ball away near the halfway line.

As you say, there were 6 back. I've actually counted 7 outfield players and verbruggen so we actually gave the ball away, near the halfway line, and then faced an attack with 8 of 11 players back against 6 Brentford players.

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It's an error. It's a bad error. It didn't "cause" the goal. There was plenty of ability to stop it and it eventually went in via a deflection. He certainly didn't "give a goal away". I agree it's a mistake though.

He is the main reason we conceded the goal, making an unforced error after having the ball under control. Our players were set up to receive the ball and weren't in their proper defensive shape, meaning they were backtracking, recovering and in a vulnerable position the whole time after the mistake.

We probably could have reacted better but there's no denying that the root cause of the goal was Verbruggen.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

That's fine, but the re telling of what happened is my issue

My issue was according to some he had passed the ball to a forward "in front of goal" and had basically caused the goal. I disagree. It doesn't hide it was an error but I don't think we will comment each time a player gives the ball away near the halfway line.

As you say, there were 6 back. I've actually counted 7 outfield players and verbruggen so we actually gave the ball away, near the halfway line, and then faced an attack with 8 of 11 players back against 6 Brentford players.

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It's an error. It's a bad error. It didn't "cause" the goal. There was plenty of ability to stop it and it eventually went in via a deflection. He certainly didn't "give a goal away". I agree it's a mistake though.

It did cause the goal as without the 30-40 yard pass, that doesn’t happen. In your picture look at the FBs, they have pushed up and are now frantically working to get back. Brentford meanwhile already have players in offensive positions.
As for the ability to stop it, we have CBs dropping off to gain time, and possibly Baleba, but they should not be in that position from something moments earlier is at our goalie’s feet.

If it had been Dunk or anyone else, everyone would say it was down to player X, this is no different.

Bart didn’t have a chance with the shot, but that’s not the issue.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

It did cause the goal as without the 30-40 yard pass, that doesn’t happen.

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

Very good….

 

[Flounce]

He is the main reason we conceded the goal, making an unforced error after having the ball under control. Our players were set up to receive the ball and weren't in their proper defensive shape, meaning they were backtracking, recovering and in a vulnerable position the whole time after the mistake.

We probably could have reacted better but there's no denying that the root cause of the goal was Verbruggen.

Wasting your time arguing with him. If Bart hadn’t f***ed up we wouldn’t have conceded a goal. End of

Game was over with that f*** up

 

[maresfield seagull]

22 you say Dutch no1 you say Despite the growing pains
He’ll do for me thank you very much

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Wasting your time arguing with him. If Bart hadn’t f***ed up we wouldn’t have conceded a goal. End of

Game was over with that f*** up

I don't think we are arguing.

 

[tstanbur]

I don't think we are arguing.

You’ve spent half the day “arguing” against something so obvious with numerous different posters in agreement.

Not one other poster has backed up your alternative view.

Imagine how much closer to 500,000 you could have counted to instead.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

You’ve spent half the day “arguing” against something so obvious with numerous different posters in agreement.

Not one other poster has backed up your alternative view.

Imagine how much closer to 500,000 you could have counted to instead.

I have a different opinion. I don't think that's arguing. It's not important enough to argue about.

I agreed he made a bad bad error. I agree it led to the sequence of events that meant Brentford scored. I just dared to make the point that I felt the goal could still have been stopped. I don't think that's particularly controversial but it seems to have hit a nerve.

I don't mind that no one has backed up my view. Not sure what that has to do with anything really.

This seems argumentative with a bit of an odd tone.. Not sure why. Don't think we've ever interacted before but I apologise if my opinion has upset you. That's not my Intention. It's football, really doesn't matter. I hope you've had a nice day.

 

[tstanbur]

I have a different opinion. I don't think that's arguing. It's not important enough to argue about.

I agreed he made a bad bad error. I agree it led to the sequence of events that meant Brentford scored. I just dared to make the point that I felt the goal could still have been stopped. I don't think that's particularly controversial but it seems to have hit a nerve.

I don't mind that no one has backed up my view. Not sure what that has to do with anything really.

This seems argumentative with a bit of an odd tone.. Not sure why. Don't think we've ever interacted before but I apologise if my opinion has upset you. That's not my Intention. It's football, really doesn't matter. I hope you've had a nice day.

Fair enough but could say similar about some of your earlier posts on this thread really. You seemed pretty wound up with others.

Arguments don’t have to be heated/abusive by the way.

 

[Pevenseagull]

The goalkeeper of choice of one of the top 10 footballing nations in the world is sufficient for Brighton and Hove Albion.

 

[Jimmy Grimble]

That's fine, but the re telling of what happened is my issue

My issue was according to some he had passed the ball to a forward "in front of goal" and had basically caused the goal. I disagree. It doesn't hide it was an error but I don't think we will comment each time a player gives the ball away near the halfway line.

As you say, there were 6 back. I've actually counted 7 outfield players and verbruggen so we actually gave the ball away, near the halfway line, and then faced an attack with 8 of 11 players back against 6 Brentford players.

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It's an error. It's a bad error. It didn't "cause" the goal. There was plenty of ability to stop it and it eventually went in via a deflection. He certainly didn't "give a goal away". I agree it's a mistake though.

Blimey, that screen grab reveals a horrible defensive shape. I think that further serves to reinforce both how bad the decision from Bart to attempt the pass was and also how bad the execution of the pass was. We didn’t have a player close to competing for it once it became a loose ball.

 

[mothy]

Sorry, which of the goals yesterday was he meant to have saved? Genuine question. Two deflected and two into the corners.

Am I being thick?

Directly at fault for giving the ball away for the 2nd.

Not the 1st time he's done that. Is it

 

[Bodian]

I have a different opinion. I don't think that's arguing. It's not important enough to argue about.

I agreed he made a bad bad error. I agree it led to the sequence of events that meant Brentford scored. I just dared to make the point that I felt the goal could still have been stopped. I don't think that's particularly controversial but it seems to have hit a nerve.

I don't mind that no one has backed up my view. Not sure what that has to do with anything really.

This seems argumentative with a bit of an odd tone.. Not sure why. Don't think we've ever interacted before but I apologise if my opinion has upset you. That's not my Intention. It's football, really doesn't matter. I hope you've had a nice day.

Haven't read the rest of the thread yet - but I said this in a post somewhere as well. He may have given away the ball - but Brentford still weren't really in a goal-scoring position, and it took a big deflection to go in from what was otherwise a relatively harmless shot.

 

[albionalex]

The goalkeeper of choice of one of the top 10 footballing nations in the world is sufficient for Brighton and Hove Albion.

Their other option funnily enough is the Brentford GK, who didn't look great yesterday either.

 

[METALMICKY]

Fair enough but could say similar about some of your earlier posts on this thread really. You seemed pretty wound up with others.

Arguments don’t have to be heated/abusive by the way.

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Maybe this could clarify things