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[Albion] Deluded Leeds (an EFL club) fans



Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
Because he’s our player mate and we want to play him?

I genuinely would love to understand why this is hard to grasp


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Are these folk escaped from a facility for the terminally dense? Do they seriously think that we’re just planning to get him to clean the bogs? If they’ve worked out how to sit down and type this utter drivel why can’t they just ask themselves the simplest questions before broadcasting this biblical scale cockwash to the world?
 




Seaber

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2010
1,130
Wales
In our first PL season we had Murray (52 apps), Krul (157 apps), Knockaert (9 apps), Duffy (5 apps), Sidwell (185 apps), Rosenior (138 apps) and Ulloa (86 apps) from Jan, as well as Hughton who all had Premier League experience.

Leeds PL experience is currently Cooper (2 apps), Roberts (1 app), 35 year old Hernandez (57 apps), a season each for Costa (25 apps) and Forshaw (34 apps), and Bamford (27 apps for four clubs, 1 goal) as well as a coach yet to commit to the club who hasn't managed in this league before.

You can place as much or little importance on experience as you want, but I think Rosenior, Sidwell and Murray were so important to settling the side that first PL season, obviously Hughton played effective pragmatic football too and had good knowledge of the league. Right now WBA and Fulham have much more proven PL quality than their northern co-promotees.

I've had a look at Huddersfield, Wolves and Sheffield United's squads in their first year in the PL, as they've had significant time away from the top division. Yeah, I had nothing on today.

Huddersfield - Hogg 5 apps, Pritchard 4 apps, Ince 14 apps, Whitehead 230 apps, Green 267 apps. They lost Green and Whitehead the next season and went down.

Sheffield United - Jagielka 360 appa, Stevens 7 appa, Basham 21 appa, Robinson 3 apps, Rodwell 166 appa, Besic 37 apps, McBurnie 18 apps, Sharp 2 appa, Mouset 58 apps. There was also another Robinson with 4 apps loaned out Jan, Morriston 17 played after the restart and Stearman left during first window, but had 77 apps.

Wolves - Traore 37 apps, Coady 1 app, Bennett 61 apps, Ruddy 118 apps. Only away six years and had a virtually PL ready side.
 




peterward

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Nov 11, 2009
12,228
Because he’s our player mate and we want to play him?

I genuinely would love to understand why this is hard to grasp


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Did they share the brain cells out in Leeds?

How about you take a new 2 year fix mortgage and I'll move in to your place and live there, anything stopping me?
 






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Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
55,840
Faversham
Did like this reply too:

"Not saying Bielsa's thorough, but since the fixtures were announced he's watched all of Liverpool's games from last season, the director's cut of A Hard Day's Night and every episode of Brookside ever made,"

Presumaby when they play us he'll read Build a Bonfire, then watch Sugar Rush on Netflix and gorge on the box set of Public Eye. ???

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PILTDOWN MAN

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Sep 15, 2004
19,494
Hurst Green








HalfaSeatOn

Well-known member
Mar 17, 2014
2,079
North West Sussex
The delusion is that some Championship sides think they can comfortably roll in to PL town. Unless you've got a usp that takes others by surprise (Sheff Utd?), the margins are seriously, really seriously, underestimated. I would hate to be a newly promoted team coming in to this league. It's still painful ( in an enjoyable way) after three seasons!
 






Lingtalung

New member
Aug 22, 2020
1
Deluded from Leeds

It's a long one, but forgive me, you're worth it.

Plenty of people getting a tad hot under the collar here I see. Nevertheless, I thought I’d pop by and see if I can help out – call it missionary work if you will.

Ben White? Well to start with, he wasn’t Leeds’ Player of the Year last season as I’ve seen oft repeated here; he was Young Player of the Year. A minor point, but as you’ve repeatedly asked for facts, I’ll deal in facts.

Ben White was superb last season for Leeds, and a joy to watch. Some credit for that of course has to go to Brighton, but his development was exponential last season, and that was down to Leeds and Bielsa – and we’ll also come back to Bielsa – but let’s stick to Ben White for now. I personally think he’ll go on to play for England and he has the potential to be exceptional. I say that having watched him play 40 games, unlike some Brighton fans that wouldn’t know the difference between Ben White and Barry White.

As mentioned, he was ‘young’ player of the year, and so it is still only potential in the top tier - can he step up, guess we’ll find out. I think he will, and whether he does so playing for Leeds, or Brighton – I genuinely hope he makes it.

Why then the drama over the fact that Leeds have made an offer or three? Outrageous! The nerve of it, making record bids for a player having never played a minute in the Premier League. Disgraceful behaviour! Dirty Leeds!! As far as I’m aware Leeds’ CEO has approached Brighton in an appropriate manner without a hint of disrespect. So how should Seagulls fans react to this most heinous crime - I know lets devote 350 pages (and counting) of our fans’ board to Leeds, to prove we don’t care about them – that’ll show ‘em.

To finish with Ben White, it looking like he will stay put, and maybe he’ll be Brighton’s young player of the year this season - but who knows, you’ve a lot of centre halves and they can’t all play, so this is still running. Either way, good luck to a young talent who shone brightly for us for a season and will ever remain a small part of our history. I’ll keep watching and hope he goes on to prove his potential whatever colour shirt he wears. But he’s just one player, and we’ll move on, and we’ll pick our next number 5, and Bielsa will develop him too……

Bielsa. I said we’d come back to him, and don’t panic Brighton fans he will be here this season, with the bucket you like so much. What’s he ever done I read Brighton fans ask? He’s no Graham Potter!! He’s never taken a team to the Europa League round of 32 – oh hang on, didn’t he get to the final a couple of years back; and didn’t he win Olympic Gold managing Argentina? Didn’t he also take Chile to the World Cup, and take Leeds from 13th in the Championship to Champions by 10 points in two seasons, matching in a stroke the highlight of Brighton’s entire history? But hey, he’s no Graham Potter, after all Guardiola and Pochettino and so many others speak in such glowing terms about Potter, don’t they?

Again, I actually like Potter, an astute manager, and an excellent appointment, but I deal in facts remember – Sorry Graham. Sorry Seagulls.

Did I use the word history just then? Well, more delusions from we Leeds fans. We’re not Barcelona are we? Perhaps not, but we have played and beaten them in major European competition. Leeds has won every major English honour, as well as European trophies. We’ve had countless greats of the game, not least of whom are two players with World Cup Winners medals playing for Leeds and England. Brighton’s Highlights of History? One Championship title; well you were pretty good that year in fairness, but just the one - in your whole history? The next most famous thing in Brighton’s history is what – Steve Foster’s headband? Brighton’s highlights in Europe would be.…..the odd pre-season tour?

You might counter that all this history was a while back, and you might have a point – to a point, but we’ve still spent four times the number of seasons Brighton have in the Premier League and have finished in the top five on seven occasions. Brighton’s highest finish? 15th. I’ve read on here (your own fans’ forum) that the height of Brighton’s ambition is to find three clubs worse than Brighton each year, in a desperate bid to add to their three years of Premier League history. Good luck with that one Gulls, but if that’s ambition, I’ll keep my delusions thanks.

But hey, Brighton are still the bigger club aren’t they, I mean talk about a wide fan base, which stretches all the way from Brighton to..….Hove? I did read someone here saying Brighton attendances were higher between 2012-17, well good show there; very well done. So the top of your arc might briefly flirt with the bottom of ours. Well haven’t Leeds’ attendances been higher over the past two seasons, despite being a league below? I’ll not mention Leeds’ worldwide fan base because, well some of you, you do know, don’t you – the ones on here that can actually see through both eyes?

Maybe Leeds will fill one of those three bottom slots this year to help Brighton fulfil their ambitions? I don’t think so, but even if it happens, Leeds fans will continue to dream of the stars rather than aching for 15th. Sometimes we’ll get there as with the three league titles we’ve won; European trophies, FA and League cup wins. Sometimes we’ll fall agonizingly short as in the ’75 final, or the Ridsdale Years, but at least our delusions come with colour and a chance to enjoy the ride.

Brighton is a well-run club, and punching above their weight right now, and long may it continue. I say that with no intent to patronise, and have absolutely no malice against the club. I’ll give a shout out to Seagulls season ticket holder Rob B – I still wish I’d taken that spare Prince ticket a few years back! I hope you finish above WBA, and Fulham – and even Crystal Palace, and good luck in trying to achieve your ambition of staying in the Premier League another year.

Posting on a football forum and expecting any semblance of realism is in itself probably the perfect definition of delusion. I have though tried to deal in facts, but hey maybe I am just deluded. Either way I’ll leave you now, so have at it – if I’m daft enough to post on here, I deserve what I get, and I won't come back to reply to - any reply. Let’s see if Leeds fans’ delusions of grandeur can get you past 400 pages of talking about Leeds. I won’t be back to respond but will stay Forever Leeds. ALAW, MOT!
 


vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
Are these folk escaped from a facility for the terminally dense? Do they seriously think that we’re just planning to get him to clean the bogs? If they’ve worked out how to sit down and type this utter drivel why can’t they just ask themselves the simplest questions before broadcasting this biblical scale cockwash to the world?

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vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
Bookmark this one for when they go down.

Guess you’re going top 10 and better eh? Seems totally grounded and realistic.

“SIMPLE”
(Like your fanbase)

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vagabond

Well-known member
May 17, 2019
9,804
Brighton
It will never end. Will they ever accept defeat?

What contract offers. Who’s staying on the bench, why do you think that?

Or maybe.. just maybe, he’s happy here? Why does that possibility never cross these minds. I mean it’s probably the most likely outcome.

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BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,146
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Or he’s not for sale? Crazy idea. Nah, couldn’t be that.

Bielsa made him the player he is [emoji3581]
We didn’t know who he was before he joined Leeds [emoji3581]
Doesn’t understand the transfer market [emoji3581]

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So just buy another 'unknown player' put him in your defence and let Bielsa work his magic.

If Bielsa is that good then why do they need Ben White?
 




Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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