Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

[Football] Everton fc Sale



Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
68,797
Withdean area
To be fair, on an individual level I've liked all the Everton fans I've met (notwithstanding their one eyed view of FFP rules in the cases where it came up).

This is much more than I can say about, picking an example entirely at random (obviously), Derby. Those guys are a bunch of pricks.

Definitely. It was only the arrogance of Villa and Everton fans online as they embarked on vast spending sprees. I liked the Evertonians I met in Liverpool and in Brighton, including their gallows humour about their club.

Separately, I copied this from the internet. Non owner borrowings of £626m. Thank god we have TB.

IMG_2428.png
 






amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
6,739
The Friedkin Group has pulled out of a potential takeover of Everton. The American investors had agreed a £500m deal to buy the club from Farhad Moshiri but withdrew on Thursday evening.
Must be a very complicated sales agreement. Who repays £400m loans to prevous buyers and cost of finishing stadium. It would have been amusing if they had got relegated
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

He/him/his/that muppet
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2011
2,385
To be fair, on an individual level I've liked all the Everton fans I've met (notwithstanding their one eyed view of FFP rules in the cases where it came up).

This is much more than I can say about, picking an example entirely at random (obviously), Derby. Those guys are a bunch of pricks.
Do you think maybe every club has a subset of extremely vocal bellends? Just a theory mind.
 








Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
19,536
Indiana, USA
Definitely. It was only the arrogance of Villa and Everton fans online as they embarked on vast spending sprees. I liked the Evertonians I met in Liverpool and in Brighton, including their gallows humour about their club.

Separately, I copied this from the internet. Non owner borrowings of £626m. Thank god we have TB.

View attachment 185858

So NOT so "Ever"hateful.
 






Albion my Albion

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Feb 6, 2016
19,536
Indiana, USA
So much money in the game and clubs still can't make ends meet.

Football is f***ed isn't it?

I don't know. Where does the money come from and in who's hands does the money end up?
 


El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
39,954
Pattknull med Haksprut
Not sure even @El Presidente could keep track of that chaos... but I expect to be proven wrong.

It’s a nightmare. Such a mess that we were briefed about Friedkin pulling out 48 hours before the club found out.

Friedkin have put in £200m, which paid off a £160m loan to MSP and the rest was for working capital, so buys some time as loan not due for repayment until 2025.

The good news is that combination of loan, first instalment of PL 24/25 TV money, ST sales and player sales gives a bit of leeway.

Bad news is that lawyers are advising that anyone who buys Everton in the knowledge that money is owed to 777 Partners, could potentially be on the end of a Proceeds of Crime issue, and American based litigation is complex and expensive, so why take the risk.

Further problem is that Moshiri is skint, but appears to be a group of one who thinks his 94.1% shareholding in Everton is worth £50m. Friedkin believe the shares are worth £49,999,999 less than this. This is because whoever buys the club acquires £200m due to Rights and Media Funding (a mysterious company based in Cheshire with no employees but itself borrowing over £300m from the Bahamas. £200m is owed to 777, £200m due to Friedkin. Moshiri has lent the club £450m but converted into shares.

There’s still work to be done to complete the stadium, which itself has ballooned in price from the initial £505m to something closer to £750-800m, despite the club initially claiming there was a fixed price contract for the construction.

Only glimmer of hope is that none of the lenders want administration, as lose the leverage they presently have with the club, so may continue to fund until a new owner is found. The interest rates on some of the loans are horrendous though.

Moshiri’s big pal Alisher Usmanov, who bought Moshiri’s shares in Arsenal and was involved in some creative sponsorship of Everton, is off the radar. He’s even more of a fanboy of Putin than Nigel Farage, and was banned from the UK six months BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Usmanov’s nephew was appointed to the board of Everton, before resigning for ‘personal and health reasons’ after being charged with GBH, although the charges were then dropped due to lack of evidence.

Everton’s wage bill is £13m a month. Goodison is not a big earner on match days. Generates £1m a game but a lot of that is from STH who have paid in advance. So the club is okay for a few months but after that either needs new owner or someone willing to lend more. Former is difficult due to 777 situation.
 


Smirko

Well-known member
Aug 19, 2011
1,567
Brighton
It’s a nightmare. Such a mess that we were briefed about Friedkin pulling out 48 hours before the club found out.

Friedkin have put in £200m, which paid off a £160m loan to MSP and the rest was for working capital, so buys some time as loan not due for repayment until 2025.

The good news is that combination of loan, first instalment of PL 24/25 TV money, ST sales and player sales gives a bit of leeway.

Bad news is that lawyers are advising that anyone who buys Everton in the knowledge that money is owed to 777 Partners, could potentially be on the end of a Proceeds of Crime issue, and American based litigation is complex and expensive, so why take the risk.

Further problem is that Moshiri is skint, but appears to be a group of one who thinks his 94.1% shareholding in Everton is worth £50m. Friedkin believe the shares are worth £49,999,999 less than this. This is because whoever buys the club acquires £200m due to Rights and Media Funding (a mysterious company based in Cheshire with no employees but itself borrowing over £300m from the Bahamas. £200m is owed to 777, £200m due to Friedkin and about £40m to Andy Bell (not the one from Erasure). Moshiri has lent the club £450m but converted into shares.

There’s still work to be done to complete the stadium, which itself has ballooned in price from the initial £505m to something closer to £750-800m, despite the club initially claiming there was a fixed price contract for the construction.

Only glimmer of hope is that none of the lenders want administration, as lose the leverage they presently have with the club, so may continue to fund until a new owner is found. The interest rates on some of the loans are horrendous though.

Moshiri’s big pal Alisher Usmanov, who bought Moshiri’s shares in Arsenal and was involved in some creative sponsorship of Everton, is off the radar. He’s even more of a fanboy of Putin than Nigel Farage, and was banned from the UK six months BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Usmanov’s nephew was appointed to the board of Everton, before resigning for ‘personal and health reasons’ after being charged with GBH, although the charges were then dropped due to lack of evidence.
Apart from that they are in the best of financial health......
 




Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,151
Just leaving this hanging here...

'Everton's new £110 Castore home shirt makes disastrous debut in pre-season friendly as the club badge falls off Idrissa Gueye's jersey during draw with Sligo Rovers in Ireland'


(multiple news outlets)
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
20,642
Eastbourne
It’s a nightmare. Such a mess that we were briefed about Friedkin pulling out 48 hours before the club found out.

Friedkin have put in £200m, which paid off a £160m loan to MSP and the rest was for working capital, so buys some time as loan not due for repayment until 2025.

The good news is that combination of loan, first instalment of PL 24/25 TV money, ST sales and player sales gives a bit of leeway.

Bad news is that lawyers are advising that anyone who buys Everton in the knowledge that money is owed to 777 Partners, could potentially be on the end of a Proceeds of Crime issue, and American based litigation is complex and expensive, so why take the risk.

Further problem is that Moshiri is skint, but appears to be a group of one who thinks his 94.1% shareholding in Everton is worth £50m. Friedkin believe the shares are worth £49,999,999 less than this. This is because whoever buys the club acquires £200m due to Rights and Media Funding (a mysterious company based in Cheshire with no employees but itself borrowing over £300m from the Bahamas. £200m is owed to 777, £200m due to Friedkin and about £40m to Andy Bell (not the one from Erasure). Moshiri has lent the club £450m but converted into shares.

There’s still work to be done to complete the stadium, which itself has ballooned in price from the initial £505m to something closer to £750-800m, despite the club initially claiming there was a fixed price contract for the construction.

Only glimmer of hope is that none of the lenders want administration, as lose the leverage they presently have with the club, so may continue to fund until a new owner is found. The interest rates on some of the loans are horrendous though.

Moshiri’s big pal Alisher Usmanov, who bought Moshiri’s shares in Arsenal and was involved in some creative sponsorship of Everton, is off the radar. He’s even more of a fanboy of Putin than Nigel Farage, and was banned from the UK six months BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Usmanov’s nephew was appointed to the board of Everton, before resigning for ‘personal and health reasons’ after being charged with GBH, although the charges were then dropped due to lack of evidence.

Everton’s wage bill is £13m a month. Goodison is not a big earner on match days. Generates £1m a game but a lot of that is from STH who have paid in advance. So the club is okay for a few months but after that either needs new owner or someone willing to lend more. Former is difficult due to 777 situation.
Thank you. Not great reading and especially for those of us who know some good Everton fans. What disastrous 'leadership' they have had the past decade or so.
 






Han Solo

Well-known member
May 25, 2024
2,383
It’s a nightmare. Such a mess that we were briefed about Friedkin pulling out 48 hours before the club found out.

Friedkin have put in £200m, which paid off a £160m loan to MSP and the rest was for working capital, so buys some time as loan not due for repayment until 2025.

The good news is that combination of loan, first instalment of PL 24/25 TV money, ST sales and player sales gives a bit of leeway.

Bad news is that lawyers are advising that anyone who buys Everton in the knowledge that money is owed to 777 Partners, could potentially be on the end of a Proceeds of Crime issue, and American based litigation is complex and expensive, so why take the risk.

Further problem is that Moshiri is skint, but appears to be a group of one who thinks his 94.1% shareholding in Everton is worth £50m. Friedkin believe the shares are worth £49,999,999 less than this. This is because whoever buys the club acquires £200m due to Rights and Media Funding (a mysterious company based in Cheshire with no employees but itself borrowing over £300m from the Bahamas. £200m is owed to 777, £200m due to Friedkin and about £40m to Andy Bell (not the one from Erasure). Moshiri has lent the club £450m but converted into shares.

There’s still work to be done to complete the stadium, which itself has ballooned in price from the initial £505m to something closer to £750-800m, despite the club initially claiming there was a fixed price contract for the construction.

Only glimmer of hope is that none of the lenders want administration, as lose the leverage they presently have with the club, so may continue to fund until a new owner is found. The interest rates on some of the loans are horrendous though.

Moshiri’s big pal Alisher Usmanov, who bought Moshiri’s shares in Arsenal and was involved in some creative sponsorship of Everton, is off the radar. He’s even more of a fanboy of Putin than Nigel Farage, and was banned from the UK six months BEFORE Putin invaded Ukraine.

Usmanov’s nephew was appointed to the board of Everton, before resigning for ‘personal and health reasons’ after being charged with GBH, although the charges were then dropped due to lack of evidence.

Everton’s wage bill is £13m a month. Goodison is not a big earner on match days. Generates £1m a game but a lot of that is from STH who have paid in advance. So the club is okay for a few months but after that either needs new owner or someone willing to lend more. Former is difficult due to 777 situation.
Chaotic... wonder how they would deal with relegation.

Too big to fail I guess, with the new stadium and all but sounds like they're going to have to be very creative to keep floating. and feck knows what they need in order to get swimming.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
52,725
Goldstone
They were certainly extremely cocky on grandoldteam when cheating with a huge illegal spend. Exactly the same mindset at Chelsea and Villa fans. Planning their success, fully aware of the rule breaking.

Same as Newcastle fans ignoring where their money has come from. I guess most clubs have an element of arses ready to bare themselves.
 






Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
68,797
Withdean area
Same as Newcastle fans ignoring where their money has come from. I guess most clubs have an element of arses ready to bare themselves.

If we sold out to a petro state with an awful human rights record, putting no debt on the club, I presume that the majority of Albion’s wider fanbase would soon get accustomed to it.
 


Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports


Top
Link Here