[Albion] Fabian Hurzeler: IN or OUT

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Brazil in Crisis: The Devastating Stat That Exposes Their Decline Over the Last Three Years

Once the undisputed kings of world football, Brazil's national team is now enduring one of its most turbulent periods in recent memory.

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As always, the test to who is a world class footballer is thus: who is he up against. Brighton beat the worst Ajax side in living memory twice. Ajax were once world class. Beating them when they’re poor doesn’t make Brighton world class, as great as it was.

If Ronaldo, Pelé, Adriano or Romario were available for selection, Pedro wouldn’t be Brazil’s number 9.

The best left wingers in the world? Vicinius Jr, Raphinha, Leao, Kvaratshelia, Diaz all have far, far better numbers than Mitoma, playing for top teams, on mega wages, winning trophies.

World class is such an overused term. People confuse “very good player” with world class.

Let's say you are right. After the left wingers you mentioned. Which other ones are better that Mitoma? I'm struggling.

Pedro will leave at the end of the season in all probability for a top notch team. He's probably one of the most skillful players we've ever had - who was also a complete bellend today by the way - that at times this season resembles Billy Painter.

Personal view is the COVID defence, the De zerbi midfield and the current attack could win the league with a following wind. We've had some absolutely top quality players in recent years.

 

[The Fits]

Watch welbecks interview says all we need to know

Not the first time a player has seemed massively deflated post match this season.
Fine, you expect that.
But he seems so…down, deflated, helpless, I guess. Doesn’t mention the manager. Didn’t say ‘we didn’t do what the manager asked’. Didn’t really talk about knowing what needs to be down beyond perfuming better. Didn’t mention Europe, turning it around.
Is that it? The players just aren’t performing, or is more going on? Do senior players trust Fab? Do they understand the process?
Under RDZ it was constantly- we know where to improve, we will improve, we are constantly learning under him etc.
How many times have any of our players talked about how impressed they are with Fab etc etc!

 

[birthofanorange]

Not the first time a player has seemed massively deflated post match this season.
Fine, you expect that.
But he seems so…down, deflated, helpless, I guess. Doesn’t mention the manager. Didn’t say ‘we didn’t do what the manager asked’. Didn’t really talk about knowing what needs to be down beyond perfuming better. Didn’t mention Europe, turning it around.
Is that it? The players just aren’t performing, or is more going on? Do senior players trust Fab? Do they understand the process?
Under RDZ it was constantly- we know where to improve, we will improve, we are constantly learning under him etc.
How many times have any of our players talked about how impressed they are with Fab etc etc!

Yet finished the season with 48 points.
We will finish with more this season.

 

[jcdenton08]

Wasn’t everyone saying this exact stuff after our last bad run, then we won loads of games, and it stopped. Are our entire squad bipolar or something?

It’s quite hard to keep up, given he allegedly loses then wins back the dressing room so often

 

[AZ Gull]

... Didn’t really talk about knowing what needs to be down beyond perfuming better. ..

Is that why we stunk the place out?

 

[birthofanorange]

Wasn’t everyone saying this exact stuff after our last bad run, then we won loads of games, and it stopped. Are our entire squad bipolar or something?

It’s quite hard to keep up, given he allegedly loses then wins back the dressing room so often

Yep, it's all a bit "Mummy I hate you! *sob* " *gives sweeties* "I love you mummy!".

 

[The Fits]

Yet finished the season with 48 points.
We will finish with more this season.

And it’s an excellent return all told, and the turn around after Forest was excellent. But that’s not the issue.
I’m sorry but Danny talks about a lack of fight amongst his teammates and Fab says don’t point fingers.
Something isn’t right despite the points. Danny chooses his words carefully. He’s a very bright and experienced boy. His and Dunk’s interviews all season have seemed off to me. Either there’s a couple of players not pulling their weight and the senior players are challenging it or the players are feeling hopeless.
The staff and playing staff feels a very fragile ecosystem at the moment. We are either good or pretty much awful and when we are awful it can continue for weeks. It really doesn’t feel like everyone is pulling in the same direction.

 

[jackalbion]

For me he’s just too predictable.

I reckon next game we’ll set up as a 4-2-3-1 and we’ll pass it around a bit and get it wide. 9 crosses out of 10 hit the first man, and when the 1 out of 10 gets in the box, nobody will attack the ball well enough to head it in, before a ball over the top to a striker with a low centre of gravity slips (probably Bowen) between our two snails pace centre back and puts them 1-0 up. Then he’ll do a like for like sub, probably bring on Ayari, and that will be it. It’s so aimless, it’s like watching a U21s manager.

 

[The Fits]

For me he’s just too predictable.

I reckon next game we’ll set up as a 4-2-3-1 and we’ll pass it around a bit and get it wide. 9 crosses out of 10 hit the first man, and when the 1 out of 10 gets in the box, nobody will attack the ball well enough to head it in, before a ball over the top to a striker with a low centre of gravity slips (probably Bowen) between our two snails pace centre back and puts them 1-0 up. Then he’ll do a like for like sub, probably bring on Ayari, and that will be it. It’s so aimless, it’s like watching a U21s manager.

First ten today was embarrassing. You could clearly see Franks instructions. Wide men stay out wide, defence and midfield get the ball forward either down the middle or out wide. Could have easily been three in that spell. It really is that easy to play against us when we play like this.

 

[birthofanorange]

And it’s an excellent return all told, and the turn around after Forest was excellent. But that’s not the issue.
I’m sorry but Danny talks about a lack of fight amongst his teammates and Fab says don’t point fingers.
Something isn’t right despite the points. Danny chooses his words carefully. He’s a very bright and experienced boy. His and Dunk’s interviews all season have seemed off to me. Either there’s a couple of players not pulling their weight and the senior players are challenging it or the players are feeling hopeless.
The staff and playing staff feels a very fragile ecosystem at the moment. We are either good or pretty much awful and when we are awful it can continue for weeks. It really doesn’t feel like everyone is pulling in the same direction.

Fair enough, but that's your interpretation of it and doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.
Our confidence (and good play) was lost in that penalty shoot-out, coupled with 2 more crucial injuries at a key point in the season.
You say "something isn't right", yet only a few short weeks ago all was fine and dandy.
I see no crisis, just a blip in confidence.

 

[peterward]

First ten today was embarrassing. You could clearly see Franks instructions. Wide men stay out wide, defence and midfield get the ball forward either down the middle or out wide. Could have easily been three in that spell. It really is that easy to play against us when we play like this.

Did you just watch MOTD, what the hell is Dunk doing playing that much further forward than the back 3 for Mbeumo first goal. As Keown said, he'd never occupy that type of position, and it made the goal a simple 2 pass move straight through and Dunk miles away in no mans land and Pervis, JPVH far to far apart from each other.

Dunk didnt just do that, he was obvs instructed to........ why? which puts that on coaching team.

 

[The Fits]

Fair enough, but that's your interpretation of it and doesn't necessarily mean it's correct.
Our confidence (and good play) was lost in that penalty shoot-out, coupled with 2 more crucial injuries at a key point in the season.
You say "something isn't right", yet only a few short weeks ago all was fine and dandy.
I see no crisis, just a blip in confidence.

What about that spell pre 2025 where we didn’t win in 8 was it? Yes we drew lots but we really struggled.
What is it? Injuries? Confidence?
What if we always have injuries? And if we don’t win a couple do we just accept we are bound to go on a winless run because that’s just the Brighton way, we lose confidence?
Because actually that happened under Potter too.
We supposedly have one of the best sports psychologists in the game. What’s going on? Is it just us? Is it just football?

Did you just watch MOTD, what the hell is Dunk doing playing that much further forward than the back 3 for Mbeumo first goal. As Keown said, he'd never occupy that type of position, and it made the goal a simple 2 pass move straight through and Dunk miles away in no mans land and Pervis, JPVH far to far apart from each other.

Dunk didnt just do that, he was obvs instructed to........ why? which puts that on coaching team.

Yep, either he’s just made up how you defend, possible as he’s having a right wobble or actually he was absolutely told to be that high up. He was basically on the centre circle. I think everyone initially assumed it was him defending but it was Pervis. I wondered what that was all about.

 

[The Fits]

Also Fab said this today post match:

“It's not about confidence’”

 

[Pliny the Gull]

Injuries are an excuse, and a bloody good

Do you actually watch the games? Injuries have no bearing on the way the teams set up. Every game we get done with almost identical goals. Every manager spots the weakness and exploits it.

100% this. TBH the players for commitment in the last few games have given it their all.
Said to Pliny the younger we will get done again on loosing possession on the high press.
2nd half today, Fab looked bereft of ideas, and a lack of passion.
Don't think, Webster, Ferdi, Lamptey would have made any difference.
We're so predictable.
I'm fearing players moving on, and another transition period.

 

[London Irish]

Hinshelwood was our best midfielder today

No he wasn’t - the two we brought on were much better

 

[The Fits]

No he wasn’t - the two we brought on were much better

Hinsh is struggling at the moment, unsurprisingly. He will come good but we ask a hell of a lot from him. Ayari did his usual thing of looking twice the player as a sub than he does as a starter.

 

[birthofanorange]

What about that spell pre 2025 where we didn’t win in 8 was it? Yes we drew lots but we really struggled.
What is it? Injuries? Confidence?
What if we always have injuries? And if we don’t win a couple do we just accept we are bound to go on a winless run because that’s just the Brighton way, we lose confidence?
Because actually that happened under Potter too.
We supposedly have one of the best sports psychologists in the game. What’s going on? Is it just us? Is it just football?

Yes, we drew lots - that's football.
Injuries never help, and by God we seem to be plagued by them, which clearly affects confidence - that's football.
We managed to turn an utterly demoralising 7 goal defeat into a following 6 match winning run - that's football, too.
Potter shmotter...football, too.
It's football, and we'll see many more losing, drawing and winning runs.
And the proverbial lady hasn't started singing yet.

 

[Pliny the Gull]

Not the first time a player has seemed massively deflated post match this season.
Fine, you expect that.
But he seems so…down, deflated, helpless, I guess. Doesn’t mention the manager. Didn’t say ‘we didn’t do what the manager asked’. Didn’t really talk about knowing what needs to be down beyond perfuming better. Didn’t mention Europe, turning it around.
Is that it? The players just aren’t performing, or is more going on? Do senior players trust Fab? Do they understand the process?
Under RDZ it was constantly- we know where to improve, we will improve, we are constantly learning under him etc.
How many times have any of our players talked about how impressed they are with Fab etc etc!

Agree.
Last 2 paragraphs sum up last 2 seasons.
RDZ didn't need a transition season.

 

[The Fits]

Agree.
Last 2 paragraphs sum up last 2 seasons.
RDZ didn't need a transition season.

And surely, if you are a Welbeck etc, you know Fab is inexperienced, you know he’s learning, you can see the team and no doubt the management are pretty fragile with their confidence- don’t you come out all guns blazing? Don’t you big up the manger?
We are working really hard for the manager. We love the gaffer. Even- we are not doing what he is telling us to do and we are letting him down. Isn’t that normal!? If he thinks the players aren’t pulling their weight they’re letting the manager down.
Why’s he not getting that? Why’s he not getting gushing testimonials in special segments on Sky with soundbites from senior players? We had that constantly with both RDZ and Potter.
But nothing.
I get the Fab in folk. I get the trust the process crew. I absolutely get trusting TB. But I’m not seeing anything genuinely positive coming from the players either in terms of articulating Fab’s footballing ideas on the pitch or supporting him off it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Did you just watch MOTD, what the hell is Dunk doing playing that much further forward than the back 3 for Mbeumo first goal. As Keown said, he'd never occupy that type of position, and it made the goal a simple 2 pass move straight through and Dunk miles away in no mans land and Pervis, JPVH far to far apart from each other.

Dunk didnt just do that, he was obvs instructed to........ why? which puts that on coaching team.

I find it hard to believe Dunk is being instructed to play the way he has been playing recently.