[Albion] Fabian Hurzeler: IN or OUT

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HURZELER IN or OUT


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willalbion

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May 8, 2006
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I fear the worst…..I will be very pleasantly surprised if GP doesn’t spot and exploit how predictable and wasteful we are in attack whilst being paceless and useless in defence.
West Ham are awful though
 






Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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You mean that weakness of having midfielders playing at full back and an older centre back playing through lack of fitness because there's nobody else available? Absolutely. You'd have to be mad to think that had anything to do with injuries.
Yep we are missing players yet still started with 9 current internationals. Injuries don’t explain the lack of movement when in attack, our pressing which is all over the place and leaves large gaps behind the midfield so like today Leicester, and Villa one simple ball and we are a goal down.
Injuries don’t cause basic team formation errors.
 


jcdenton08

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Though Milner, who probably wouldn’t have been a regular starter, does skew that stat a lot.
I think he would be a regular starter. He looked good early season before the injury and played 172 minutes across the first three games (2 wins).

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Sarisbury Seagull

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Don’t think he’s doing a very good job but would be stupid to sack him at this point in the season.
Oh yes, there’s no point doing it now and that doesn’t seem to be Bloom’s style anyway. But like with Hughton in 2018/2019, I hope he’s seen enough by this stage of the season to move him on immediately after it finishes.
 




The Fits

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Jun 29, 2020
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If it’s injuries you adapt. If it’s Dunk, you drop him. Quite clearly pre and post the good run the common dominator is Dunk.
So try something else!?
Supposedly he’s a tactical genius. Supposedly he developed an innovative formation at St Pauli. So bloody try it. Earn your salt. Show us your style and class, your bravery, the things you are asking us to believe in.
You can’t just blame it on injuries or Dunk.
Play this:

Wieffer JPVH Baleba
March Hinsh Gomez Pervis
Minteh Welbeck JP

Players are all comfortable moving about in those roles- we’ve done it under Potter and RDZ- that was the whole bloody point- fluid positions, fluid football.
Just try something to avoid the inevitable.
 


jcdenton08

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And we hadn’t spent £200m with RDZ.

Brentford are below us.
So are Leicester.
So are Palace.
And so are West Ham.
Yes, because across the totality of the season so far we’ve accrued more points, which is how league football works. Throughout the season there are ups and downs, form, injuries…
 


Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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You mean that weakness of having midfielders playing at full back and an older centre back playing through lack of fitness because there's nobody else available? Absolutely. You'd have to be mad to think that had anything to do with injuries.
Jack Hinshelwood was being mentioned as a future England right back under DeZerbi, just saying.
 








Hamilton

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Yes, because across the totality of the season so far we’ve accrued more points, which is how league football works. Throughout the season there are ups and downs, form, injuries…
And you’d expect us to put a result together against teams who have accrued fewer points. Or are you of the belief that we only fulfill our potential against better teams?
 






peterward

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We’ve played over 30 games now under this manager. I’d think that fans should have a better opinion than Fence to this question, at this stage.

Fence maybe after say half the season but frankly I’ve run out of patience with him.
The reason is that we lack a style of play that we had under RDZ and Potter, a sense of identity. Yes results are important but it’s that lack of knowing what we are about that bothers me.

We have the strongest squad of players we’ve ever had and yet he doesn’t seem to be getting the best out of them.

Too inexperienced, full of naff cliches and thinks that running around a lot brings you success. No clear patters of play, very regimented substitutions and doesn’t seem to have the respect of the players in the same way Potter and RDZ had.

So, out for me.
You know what, I kinda agree.

But then I remember I became pretty vehemently Potter OUT on similar threads after piss awful runs.

He did turn that around and when he left, we were playing some wonderful stuff.

Fab is underachieving with this squad, results and performances are currently poor, im not sure he has the ability, but we have been here before, and as an emotional fan I'm often wrong!

In TB I trust.

If he bins off FH I wouldn't lose a minutes sleep or be upset.

If he doesn't, I'll trust his call and hope FH does have the required nous to turn it around?
 


pocketseagull

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Dec 29, 2014
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IN. These players simply do not care, they only want to turn up when they’ve got a chance to audition for a big six team. That’s not his fault
I'm fence but think the above reason would push me towards Out. We're not going to replace the squad so bringing in a manager who truly inspires like RDZ did would be the solution. Although easier said than done.
 
















Guinness Boy

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We must be looking at different stats.

We have lost the second highest number of minutes through injury behind Arsenal in the Premier League in the current season.

Presently:

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Veltman, Kadioglu or Lamptey would be right back. Webster or Igor would be ahead of Dunk. Rutter would be playing. Mitoma/March would be starting. Steele is very possible to have played ahead of out of form Verbruggen. Kadioglu or Igor are very likely to have rotated with a tired Estupinan for minutes. Milner definitely would’ve had minutes in central midfield, where he started the season.

Throughout the season we’ve had injuries to almost all of our starters.
The players’ attitude and keeping them fit is very much the head coach’s responsibility.
 


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