- Oct 20, 2022
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Do you have sources for these figures please - the Gazan death toll is underestimated and the displacement of Israelis is overestimated according to other sources?No offence taken. What has occurred is truly horrific and no one can deny that. These are some shocking figures I have found:
I don't ignore the news but sometimes I just cannot watch some of the content. It is all too depressing and, frankly, f***ed up.
- At least 18,000+ Palestinians and 1,300+ Israelis have been killed in the 2023 Israel-Hamas War.
- ...with a further 1,900,000+ Palestinians displaced within Gaza and 500,000+ Israelis displaced.
January 14 - 100 Days War
Most sources are reporting the Hamas Heath Ministry figures (in the absence of anyone else collating them or being in a position to) of around 24,000 + Gazan fatalities (with about 7,000 missing/buried under rubble) of which 10,000 are children which would make it nearer 30,000. The IDF are claiming 9,000 Hamas fighters have been killed although that would make nearly every man killed a Hamas fighter according to the IDF since around two thirds of the fatalities are women and children. ( Aid agencies and MSM have said there is no evidence the Health Ministry figures are inflated and may even be an underestimate https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...ncies-consider-gaza-toll-reliable-2023-10-27/)
Reports I’ve seen put evacuated/displaced Israelis at around 96,000 in the Northern border towns and another 117,000 in Southern Israel near Gaza, (the quoted ‘500,000‘ is well over double that figure). It should be noted, devastating as it is for Israelis to be forced to temporarily evacuate to safe areas to stay with families or to hotels, it is a temporary displacement and their empty homes are being guarded by soldiers, Gazans don’t have that choice. The displacement of nearly 2 million Gazans is from homes and areas of infrastructure completely destroyed - they will have no homes to return to but instead face life in a refugee camp after the war There is also no where in Gaza that is safe for them - they can not leave to go to hotels and family - refugee evacuation sites are being targeted daily.
That said, ordinary Israeli civilians near the war zones are also being impacted heavily by the war and the situation is for them is terrifying, especially for those who are scared to go home for understandably they are traumatised by the events of the Hamas Massacre 7/10 and the possibility of facing a similar type raid by Hezbollah. What I know of Jewish Israeli mentality, after decades of rockets, suicide bombs, they are very stoic and typically grow ‘use’ to the violence - for them to say are scared of what is happening, enough not to want to return to their homes is an indication of how far this conflict departs from previous conflicts in the scale of escalation risk.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...hern-border-leaves-evacuees-limbo-2024-01-11/
Just tragic all round with millions of people feeling powerless to do anything about it.