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[Technology] Internet Monitoring via a router log [Geek Thread]



Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
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Oct 27, 2003
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The arse end of Hangleton
Long story short - Ms WS is up at all hours on the internet supposedly gaming although she gets very cagey when asked what games. I have a Virgin Hub 3 but unfortunately it has no logs. For the avoidance of doubt there is no way she'll allow me to get access to her laptop to install monitoring software. So I'm looking to turn my Hub 3 to modem mode and install a new router inline that logs websites visited - even better has category blocking capability. Can anyone recommend one please ? I'm looking at a Linksys - https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-...uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl - but am a little hesitant as they used to be cheap rubbish.
 














Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,848
Worthing
Long story short - Ms WS is up at all hours on the internet supposedly gaming although she gets very cagey when asked what games. I have a Virgin Hub 3 but unfortunately it has no logs. For the avoidance of doubt there is no way she'll allow me to get access to her laptop to install monitoring software. So I'm looking to turn my Hub 3 to modem mode and install a new router inline that logs websites visited - even better has category blocking capability. Can anyone recommend one please ? I'm looking at a Linksys - https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Linksys-...uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl - but am a little hesitant as they used to be cheap rubbish.

As long as she’s not doing Cam Work
 


Fungus

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May 21, 2004
7,252
Truro
Assuming she's got a phone, I imagine her response would simply be to use that as a hot-spot to connect her laptop?
 


PeterOut

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Aug 16, 2016
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If you were to be successful, how would you start the conversation - "I have been spying on your online activity using the router logs, and I see that you have been on xyz website at 01:30".?

If you did manage to have that conversation, it would take her moments to install a VPN (if she hasn't already). At that point, with or without access to your router logs, you will have no idea where she has been visiting.

While I may understand your concerns, I'm not so sure that obtaining a log of her website visits will do much good.
 




thedonkeycentrehalf

Moved back to wear the gloves (again)
Jul 7, 2003
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First off, better to discuss than prohibit as kids will always find a way around.

However, if you are really concerned, you can just go into your VM settings and use the content blockers to stop access to certain types of site. You can then ask her to tell you the websites she needs to access in those categories and whitelist them as needed.
 


Live by the sea

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Oct 21, 2016
4,718
I agree , it’s far better to talk to her and let her know why you are concerned than try to spy on her . Your not Mi5 or Mossad !
 


Uh_huh_him

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Sep 28, 2011
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I'm surprised in this day and age that whatever she is engaged on isn't on a phone.
My two daughters live entirely on their phone.
Laptops are primarily used for gaming and schoolwork.

Without knowing the age of your daughter, it's difficult to judge what it is you're concerned she might be up to.
However up to the age of 13 all 3 of my kids would spend a ridiculous amount of time on Roblox and Minecraft.
So she could genuinely be gaming. She might be evasive about it, because there is some less than wholesome things going on in some areas of these games.

If your daughter is at that sort of age, it's a challenging time.
One of mine is now 19 and went through a very upsetting time from 13 on and was getting up to many of the sorts of things that you are probably worrying about.

She would never talk to me about any of it at the time, because she was scared of my reaction.
We would clash constantly and she would lie about what was going on and refuse to back down, which would drive me mental.

We are very close again now and able to talk openly about that period and realise we both made a lot of mistakes.

It's a tough time, but if you can try talking to her without judgement or threats of punishment, it would be a good thing to do.
Spying on her will not prevent any of the things you are concerned about.
Equally there may not be anything to worry about.
 




Justice

Dangerous Idiot
Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
You don’t say how old your daughter is which makes it difficult to respond. School age I wouldn’t mess around demand laptop and password you may just be saving her from being abused. 18 or over mind your own business.
 




Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
25,322
GOSBTS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_analyzer

A packet sniffer should keep out the panty sniffers

He’d need to be able to run it on the laptop though and doubtful he’d get access. And then to retrieve it.

You’ll doubtful be able to get any router of reasonable price to run it on there or need a separate device to take a sample from
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
28,998
I'm surprised in this day and age that whatever she is engaged on isn't on a phone.
My two daughters live entirely on their phone.
Laptops are primarily used for gaming and schoolwork.

Without knowing the age of your daughter, it's difficult to judge what it is you're concerned she might be up to.
However up to the age of 13 all 3 of my kids would spend a ridiculous amount of time on Roblox and Minecraft.
So she could genuinely be gaming. She might be evasive about it, because there is some less than wholesome things going on in some areas of these games.

If your daughter is at that sort of age, it's a challenging time.
One of mine is now 19 and went through a very upsetting time from 13 on and was getting up to many of the sorts of things that you are probably worrying about.

She would never talk to me about any of it at the time, because she was scared of my reaction.
We would clash constantly and she would lie about what was going on and refuse to back down, which would drive me mental.

We are very close again now and able to talk openly about that period and realise we both made a lot of mistakes.

It's a tough time, but if you can try talking to her without judgement or threats of punishment, it would be a good thing to do.
Spying on her will not prevent any of the things you are concerned about.
Equally there may not be anything to worry about.

Had similar with my daughter from 13/14 until about 17. From 18 onward we became close again, within a couple of years we were talking about those 'problem years' quite openly and, as you said 'realise we both made a lot of mistakes'. She's now 25 and we are really close (except she's gone to Australia :wink:).
 


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