Yes yet another poll on Fab. I find the IN/OUT debate a bit too polarising and divisive. Personally I don’t think Fab is doing so well but am also patient and am willing to give him time. This was my stance on Potter for most of his tenure here too. So that’s the question: is Fab doing a good job?
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[Albion] Is Fab doing a good job? (Yet another poll)
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OzMike
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Good and tripe, no sure either way.
Option 4. I think from the tactics, interviews and team selections that he’s not doing so well but he’s young and inexperienced. That has the potential to improve I guess.
I said this on another thread but the issue for me is I can’t see what it is he is trying to do. Under Potter even though results weren’t as good it was so evident how he wanted us to play and I believed in it totally. They was a philosophy and a style, I just dont see any of that with FH. I also don’t think his in game management is anywhere near where it should be which is understandable as he’s young and inexperienced.
I’m not impressed. Since we reached the PL I have never called for a manager to be sacked, Hughton had too much credit in the bank, Potter I believed in wholeheartedly and RDZ achieved so much he deserved time. I actively want this manager to leave in the summer, which is an unfortunate and frankly unpleasant feeling but there’s just too many red flags for me.
I’m not impressed. Since we reached the PL I have never called for a manager to be sacked, Hughton had too much credit in the bank, Potter I believed in wholeheartedly and RDZ achieved so much he deserved time. I actively want this manager to leave in the summer, which is an unfortunate and frankly unpleasant feeling but there’s just too many red flags for me.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Hard to disagree, but don't think TB will fire him.
He fired Poyet who was being a complete dick and prostituting himself around, he fired Hughton you'd guess because we were clinging on by our fingernails, stinking the place out and there was no younger/academy/rough diamond players getting time which didn't fit the buy low sell high model we now enjoy.
But he backed Hyypia, a decent man hopelessly out of his depth and wanted to back him more before he fell on his own sword.
And Hurzeler, a good man who looks a bit of his depth at times right now, is more Hyypia than Gus or Hughton.
I suspect you are right. If he did it would be a data driven decision based on player and team performance, he won’t do it based on emotion.
Mancgull
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Yes, I usually like our managers and feel for them when things aren’t going right as I can see what they are trying to do.
With Fab I do have this unfortunate feeling that I want him gone. I just don’t believe that the players believe in him.
maltaseagull
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My biggest gripe is that we keep playing a high line and keep getting caught. Why have we not developed an alternative?
Dunk is exposed every time an attack breaks down. I can see it from Malta FFS. Why can´t Fab from the touchline?
Dunk is exposed every time an attack breaks down. I can see it from Malta FFS. Why can´t Fab from the touchline?
He’s not had a fair crack of the whip without key players being injured so it’s tough to judge
But I would argue he has made adjustments. Post-Chelsea away he definitely did. He’s been less rigid than RdZ was with his mantra for my money.
The Terminator
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- Aug 7, 2010
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My issue with Fab is that I don’t think he’s getting anything extra out of this squad that another manager couldn’t. I genuinely believe we’re in the position we’re in purely because of the players. I actually think we’ve got a decent squad, flawed like any mid-table team but still solid.
Every week I go into games not knowing how we’re going to play. There’s no clear style, no obvious system he’s trying to implement. One week we’re playing a ridiculously high line against a counter-attacking side, the next we’re sitting deep. Then there’s his baffling team selections and substitutions. Sometimes they work, fair enough, but other times they’re just bizarre.
Take the Forest game for example, starting with just one central midfielder was a shambles. And then yesterday, he starts Mats at right-back and Jack in central midfield, when Jack’s been solid at right-back all season and Mats has never played there for us before? It just felt like an unnecessary risk. And what about taking off our only striker while we’re chasing the game?
I’m not usually one to criticise managers, I think they deserve time. I haven’t called for a manager’s head since Hyypiä, and I’m not sure I’m doing that now either. But I have definitely lost faith in him. The whole “trust the process” message is becoming harder and harder to believe when it doesn’t seem like there’s any process at all
Every week I go into games not knowing how we’re going to play. There’s no clear style, no obvious system he’s trying to implement. One week we’re playing a ridiculously high line against a counter-attacking side, the next we’re sitting deep. Then there’s his baffling team selections and substitutions. Sometimes they work, fair enough, but other times they’re just bizarre.
Take the Forest game for example, starting with just one central midfielder was a shambles. And then yesterday, he starts Mats at right-back and Jack in central midfield, when Jack’s been solid at right-back all season and Mats has never played there for us before? It just felt like an unnecessary risk. And what about taking off our only striker while we’re chasing the game?
I’m not usually one to criticise managers, I think they deserve time. I haven’t called for a manager’s head since Hyypiä, and I’m not sure I’m doing that now either. But I have definitely lost faith in him. The whole “trust the process” message is becoming harder and harder to believe when it doesn’t seem like there’s any process at all
A very mixed bag.
Fantastic in a couple of spells this season. Great early subs with almost a Midas touch, taking the p out of Manure, we kept going until the end eg Fulham.
Versus does bugger all about teams including Stains, Leicester and Brentford tearing us apart on the counter. Good coaches absolutely do make mid half adjustments in real time to stop a repeated threat. FH simply won’t, when an entire stadium can see it before the opposition score.
Fantastic in a couple of spells this season. Great early subs with almost a Midas touch, taking the p out of Manure, we kept going until the end eg Fulham.
Versus does bugger all about teams including Stains, Leicester and Brentford tearing us apart on the counter. Good coaches absolutely do make mid half adjustments in real time to stop a repeated threat. FH simply won’t, when an entire stadium can see it before the opposition score.
1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
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Oh goodie, another poll of entitlement.
Potter was right.
Having said all that, our defence is bloody awful. Exactly as I said during the Forest drubbing, schoolboy defending in terms of the picking up. You simply can't give the opposition that amount of space at this level.
Potter was right.
Having said all that, our defence is bloody awful. Exactly as I said during the Forest drubbing, schoolboy defending in terms of the picking up. You simply can't give the opposition that amount of space at this level.
- Nov 11, 2009
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Potter was right or the defensive coaching is wrong?
1066familyman
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- Jan 15, 2008
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Potter was right about a history lesson, after an excellent performance against Leeds didn't get the points it deserved, but got that ridiculous fans response.
A few years on, it seems that there's a lot of our fans that now think we're somehow entitled to play in Europe every season. That's embarrassing entitlement, whichever way you slice it.
I don't think our defensive coaching is necessarily wrong. Surely they're not telling our defenders to ball watch and leave acres of space? Midfield covering, due to tactics or whatever, cannot cover the fact that some of our defenders are continually forgetting the basics.
Very simplistic I know, and obviously there's much more to it than that, but this is just my initial gut reaction having just watched the game back and coming on here for the first time since before the game.
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Can't take the opinions of people who still hark on about Potter seriously.
Anyway, right now with the team seemingly having sacked the season off, he's doing an appalling job.
More generally, he's been dealt a rough hand with injuries and some shite recruitment raising expectations with money spent, so I'd say he's doing ok. Not good, but ok.
Anyway, right now with the team seemingly having sacked the season off, he's doing an appalling job.
More generally, he's been dealt a rough hand with injuries and some shite recruitment raising expectations with money spent, so I'd say he's doing ok. Not good, but ok.
Justice
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DeZerbi had way worse injuries to deal with than Hurzeler, if we finish equal or below last seasons finish it’s been a failure. £200m spent for no improvement.
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I was hoping to get away from terms like entitlement or happy clapper as they’re not at all helpful in fostering debate. There’s a much more nuance than IN or OUT and that’s want I was hoping to gauge. If someone (me for example) thinks Fab isn’t doing a great job and could get the team performing better but doesn’t want him to be sacked tomorrow am I showing entitlement? Where does this much mentioned entitlement start and finish?