Tom Bombadil
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Yes thats basically what i was saying
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[Albion] Joel Veltman signs from Ajax in a 3-year deal
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Yes thats basically what i was saying
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I didn't know that. I assumed they were open to everyone. So if it was veltman's dream to play in the premier league thats why it was so low. A thank you for the service provided you join the premier league? That makes much more sense.
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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Apologies! I guess I was being a bit dumb after all.
It could be. I obviously don't know any of the intricacies of his contract, but in theory, he could have any stipulation attached to the clause. The (excluding domestic clubs) is a pretty common one for obvious reasons.
Peter Grummit
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Call me cynical but it's where he'll get the best deal. Signing on fee of most of the difference between the 900k and his market value, plus a good wage.
I think he got a decent sign-on but I also think he truly wanted to go to the PL. I cant imagine that the other two clubs he had offers from - both CL clubs - Atalanta and Lyon would have paid him much less.
macbeth
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Obviously still to see if he's any good, but all the noises so far sound like this is a really smart deal from the club
This from Naylor: Atalanta and a couple of Premier League rivals wanted Joel Veltman. #BHAFC
A Brighton source says those rivals were “absolutely spitting feathers because we moved so quickly on it and we’d been tracking him so long, he only really wanted to come to us”.
Full article (paywalled, of course): https://theathletic.com/1965335/2020/08/01/brighton-joel-veltman-ajax/
Definitely sounds like one of those that we've had on the radar for a very long time and have been very patient with, building up a rapport with the player. Well done to the recruitment team for the diligence.
This from Naylor: Atalanta and a couple of Premier League rivals wanted Joel Veltman. #BHAFC
A Brighton source says those rivals were “absolutely spitting feathers because we moved so quickly on it and we’d been tracking him so long, he only really wanted to come to us”.
Full article (paywalled, of course): https://theathletic.com/1965335/2020/08/01/brighton-joel-veltman-ajax/
Definitely sounds like one of those that we've had on the radar for a very long time and have been very patient with, building up a rapport with the player. Well done to the recruitment team for the diligence.
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Icy Gull
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Wow! Have a look at the Argus comments from Hans Kray, he is a very big fan and thinks he’ll possibly be better suited to us than Ajax. Also surprised that he signed for L’il Ole Brighton rather than a big club. Davy Propper sold him on the Albion! Best position right side CB though he can push up to midfield, not a RB and he doesn’t hoof the ball. Ideal in a back three
Now where is that Albion fan who said he had a friend who was a season ticket holder at Ajax who thought he was shitehouse ?
Kray does say that he doesn’t think Albion did their homework on Locadia and was apparently not enthused when he saw that we had signed him.
Now where is that Albion fan who said he had a friend who was a season ticket holder at Ajax who thought he was shitehouse ?
Kray does say that he doesn’t think Albion did their homework on Locadia and was apparently not enthused when he saw that we had signed him.
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Wow! Have a look at the Argus comments from Hans Kray, he is a very big fan and thinks he’ll possibly be better suited to us than Ajax. Also surprised that he signed for L’il Ole Brighton rather than a big club. Davy Propper sold him on the Albion! Best position right side CB though he can push up to midfield, not a RB and he doesn’t hoof the ball. Ideal in a back three
Now where is that Albion fan who said he had a friend who was a season ticket holder at Ajax who thought he was shitehouse ?
Kray does say that he doesn’t think Albion did their homework on Locadia and was apparently not enthused when he saw that we had signed him.
I think he's been brought in with the idea that playing with a back three will be the formation we use most commonly.
Anyway, great to see this board back to talking about what we have got, not what we might get or might lose.
Hans kray is the Dutch equivalent of Steve mcmanaman in pundit terms !!
Proof will be in the pudding I guess you just never know with Dutch players. What we definitely know of veltman is that he's a lion heart so will at least give everything. Will be interesting to see how we use him, as kraay says in that article he's not great in the air hence being shifted to RB at Ajax.
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Locadia going to the PL was surprising to everyone who follows Dutch football. Signing a player who had gone backwards in his development and never really taken off despite being considered the "new PSV superstriker". It was painfully obvious from EL/CL that he was not good enough to repay the confidence plenty of managers showed him. Not the type of player you should sign to one of the toughest leagues.
ifightbears
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Cover for CB/RB like Burn on the other side if the below from sky sports is believed:
La Liga side Real Betis are in talks with Brighton over a potential deal for right-back Martin Montoya.
The former Barcelona defender has one year left on his contract at the Amex Stadium.
Montoya was signed in August 2018 from Valencia on a four-year deal.
Teenager Tariq Lamptey, a January signing from Chelsea, impressed in the right-back role when the Premier League resumed after lockdown and Montoya may struggle to get regular game time in the new season.
Montoya had a previous loan spell at Betis in 2016
La Liga side Real Betis are in talks with Brighton over a potential deal for right-back Martin Montoya.
The former Barcelona defender has one year left on his contract at the Amex Stadium.
Montoya was signed in August 2018 from Valencia on a four-year deal.
Teenager Tariq Lamptey, a January signing from Chelsea, impressed in the right-back role when the Premier League resumed after lockdown and Montoya may struggle to get regular game time in the new season.
Montoya had a previous loan spell at Betis in 2016
Medwayseagull
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Signing a four year deal in August 2018 and one year left on his contract don't reconcile. Maths obviously not their strong point.
https://www.brightonandhovealbion.com/news/1758427/new-signings-are-great-additions-says-potter
Interesting that Potter calls Veltman "right back". Guessing that will be his main position then and that he is seen as the replacement for Montoya.
Interesting that Potter calls Veltman "right back". Guessing that will be his main position then and that he is seen as the replacement for Montoya.
I think that’s where he played a lot for Ajax
The Fits
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Yeah and i think that was what Kray was saying too. I was surprised, but i'm sure he mentioned that Ajax, and the national team, rarely play 3 at the back. And although he reckons his best postion is on the right of a 3, my feeling is that he has been signed primarily to play RB in a 4 and as an option in a 3 (where we have plenty). So a direct replacement for Montoya it seems but not necessarily a regular starter.
Having players like Veltman, White, Burn, Lamptey, March, Alzate and possibly Bernardo who can play in two defensive positions, or a defensive and midfield position will be important to how we play next season. The ability to shift from a back four to back five without making subs, as well as the strength in depth this brings, is really positive. Adding a new LWB, possibly a versatile player like AMN would be the cherry on the icing on the cake.
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I thought it was widely acknowledged as being a right back?