[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[PascalGroß Tips]

It all went quite unpleasant remarkably quickly didn't it....!

It did.

We had a mix of some trying to debate a very sensitive subject in a respectable way with an exchange of different views. And then others who did no more than trade one line insults.

 

[armchairclubber]

It did.

We had a mix of some trying to debate a very sensitive subject in a respectable way with an exchange of different views. And then others who did no more than trade one line insults.

And some that liked those insults as well.

Continuously.

 

[Gabbiano]

It did.

We had a mix of some trying to debate a very sensitive subject in a respectable way with an exchange of different views. And then others who did no more than trade one line insults.

Another political thread successfully detailed by those who shout loudest.

It's interesting that the Tory meltdown thread has died down in favour of this one - almost as though people think that we basically have a Labour government in waiting already.

The "what about X?" and "they're all the same!" arguments are also telling. Nothing at all about the benefits of 5 more years of Tory government, only feigned apathy or whataboutism.

I will say that Labour is running a campaign in which they try to build trust and credibility - they need to be cleaner than clean. It doesn't matter that their scandals are small fry compared to those of the last years of Conservative government.

The left wing within Labour are doing more damage to Keir than the Tories are. A purge of the far left of Labour is what is making them electable again, the Tories should really consider doing the same for their right wing. Britain does not naturally tend towards extremist politics, change is built slowly.

 

[aolstudios]

Another political thread successfully detailed by those who shout loudest.

It's interesting that the Tory meltdown thread has died down in favour of this one - almost as though people think that we basically have a Labour government in waiting already.

The "what about X?" and "they're all the same!" arguments are also telling. Nothing at all about the benefits of 5 more years of Tory government, only feigned apathy or whataboutism.

The left wing within Labour are doing more damage to Keir than the Tories are. A purge of the far left of Labour is what is making them electable again, the Tories should really consider doing the same for their right wing. Britain does not naturally tend towards extremist politics, change is built slowly.

This ^

 

[nevergoagain]

A Labour candidate said he asked police not to respond if they were contacted by a resident he was planning to confront at their home.

Council leader Darren Rodwell claimed he used official systems to find the address of the person who had threatened him online.

"I found out where the person lived,” he told a podcast, “because I have the ways and means - so I used them.”

He added: “My office phoned the police up and said the leader wants to let you know: ‘Don’t worry if you get a call from this address’."

and for balance:

The Conservatives have selected a parliamentary candidate with links to preachers accused of homophobia and Islamophobia.

Darren Millar, who is currently a member of the Welsh Parliament, has been selected to stand for the new parliamentary seat of Clwyd North in North Wales.

Mr Millar has previously attracted controversy for his association with a pastor called Yang Tuck Yoong, who was criticised for homophobic views.

 

[Is it PotG?]

A Labour candidate said he asked police not to respond if they were contacted by a resident he was planning to confront at their home.

Council leader Darren Rodwell claimed he used official systems to find the address of the person who had threatened him online.

"I found out where the person lived,” he told a podcast, “because I have the ways and means - so I used them.”

He added: “My office phoned the police up and said the leader wants to let you know: ‘Don’t worry if you get a call from this address’."

and for balance:

The Conservatives have selected a parliamentary candidate with links to preachers accused of homophobia and Islamophobia.

Darren Millar, who is currently a member of the Welsh Parliament, has been selected to stand for the new parliamentary seat of Clwyd North in North Wales.

Mr Millar has previously attracted controversy for his association with a pastor called Yang Tuck Yoong, who was criticised for homophobic views.

British politics, you can't beat it.

 

[Ding Dong !]

I hope she does put her name forward. Boris was a buffoon but this woman takes the honours.........it's comedy gold !!!!

 

[Weststander]

The unelectable Bitter Left could always bugger off to form their own, narrow church.

 

[Bodian]

A Labour candidate said he asked police not to respond if they were contacted by a resident he was planning to confront at their home.

Council leader Darren Rodwell claimed he used official systems to find the address of the person who had threatened him online.

"I found out where the person lived,” he told a podcast, “because I have the ways and means - so I used them.”

He added: “My office phoned the police up and said the leader wants to let you know: ‘Don’t worry if you get a call from this address’."

and for balance:

The Conservatives have selected a parliamentary candidate with links to preachers accused of homophobia and Islamophobia.

Darren Millar, who is currently a member of the Welsh Parliament, has been selected to stand for the new parliamentary seat of Clwyd North in North Wales.

Mr Millar has previously attracted controversy for his association with a pastor called Yang Tuck Yoong, who was criticised for homophobic views.

I'm hoping you didn't make a deliberate selection to imply that people called Darren are likely to behave in this way??!

 

[nevergoagain]

Seven councillors have resigned from the Labour Party over the treatment of Diane Abbott and Faiza Shaheen, the party's position on Gaza, and comments by the local MP.

The councillors at Slough Borough Council said arguments over whether the pair could stand for election highlighted "institutional racism" in Labour.

 

[borat]

Starmers democratic interference even too much for Michael Crick (a Blairite)

 

[Weststander]

Starmers democratic interference even too much for Michael Crick (a Blairite)

I thought Crick always portrayed himself as not party political.

 

[borat]

I thought Crick always portrayed himself as not party political.

Maybe wasnt open about it when at BBC or C4 but describes himself as right side of Labour or Blairite in the interview

 

[armchairclubber]

Kier Starmer needs to sort out what the Labour Party defines as antisemitism - it needs to clarify it‘s position on Israel to its members

He's made it absolutely clear. This, apparently is not antisemitism. It warrants being found a safe seat in Durham North.

 

[armchairclubber]

The unelectable Bitter Left could always bugger off to form their own, narrow church.

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Noted.
It's also a narrow path.

Pinched in your case.

 

[MJsGhost]

Neither are exactly charismatic men of the people, but Rishi Sunak always seems really chippy that he has to even try to 'win people over'.

He strikes me as someone who thinks his plan / policy has been so well thought through, that the only people who don't buy into it are too stupid to see why it's brilliant. As soon as he sees that someone isn't on board with it, he gets tetchy.

He's going to be an absolute liability in this campaign and I suspect he'll just get chippier and chippier. If he could campaign by PowerPoint, he would (and it would probably be more effective than putting him in front of anyone other than Tory party members - who all still wish they had Boris instead anyway).

Sunak is determined to prove my point.

Disrespecting D-Day and Veterans is an absolute guarantee of upsetting the Tory core support (as well as any right-minded individual).

He is so self-absorbed and will have HATED having to come out and apologise. CLUELESS.

 

[Super Steve Earle]

Sunak is determined to prove my point.

Disrespecting D-Day and Veterans is an absolute guarantee of upsetting the Tory core support (as well as any right-minded individual).

He is so self-absorbed and will have HATED having to come out and apologise. CLUELESS.

Have to wonder if he is tone deaf or stone deaf. Surely the man has advisers to point out the colossal blunderness of this blunder.

 

[JBizzle]

Sunak is determined to prove my point.

Disrespecting D-Day and Veterans is an absolute guarantee of upsetting the Tory core support (as well as any right-minded individual).

He is so self-absorbed and will have HATED having to come out and apologise. CLUELESS.

I'm beginning to wonder if he even really cares anymore. He's more gaffe-riddled than Johnson, and Johnson choreographed weekly gaffes to stay on brand. Sunak is seemingly falling apart at the seams

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Have to wonder if he is tone deaf or stone deaf. Surely the man has advisers to point out the colossal blunderness of this blunder.

According to Johnny Mercer it was his advisors to blame, or everyone else to blame. Take your choice.

 

[Peteinblack]

According to Johnny Mercer it was his advisors to blame, or everyone else to blame. Take your choice.

I'm surprised they're not blaming Labour, like they do for almost everything else!