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[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......



Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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Spank the Manc
Surely betting on the outcome of an election (something that is not known in advance and you can not have inside knowledge of beyond the polls which are public) is very different to betting on the date of an election, when you are part of the group who decides what the date of that election will be?

Still a stupid thing to do, and he has obliged Starmer to make an example of him after what the Tories have been up to.
 




Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,745
Sussex by the Sea
Surely betting on the outcome of an election (something that is not known in advance and you can not have inside knowledge of beyond the polls which are public) is very different to betting on the date of an election, when you are part of the group who decides what the date of that election will be?

Still a stupid thing to do, and he has obliged Starmer to make an example of him after what the Tories have been up to.
How would you view a racehorse trainer backing his horse to lose?
 


Gabbiano

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Dec 18, 2017
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Spank the Manc
How would you view a racehorse trainer backing his horse to lose?
A fair point there, it opens accusations of throwing the election.

Certainly unacceptable though perhaps harder to prove than betting on insider knowledge.

Then the major difference is how the parties have acted in response. Starmer had been assertive and taken action, where Sunak dithered hoping not to lose candidates.
 


Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
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Fiveways


nevergoagain

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Jul 28, 2005
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Labour has suspended a party member after being notified of their arrest in connection with the Westminster "honeytrap" scandal, the BBC understands.

Police arrested a man in his mid-20s on suspicion of harassment and offences under the Online Safety Act in London on Wednesday.

Multiple alleged victims were informed by the Metropolitan Police shortly afterwards.

Imagine my shock, surely Labour would never do anything so underhand, that's reserved for the Tories isn't it ?.
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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I can’t see it making much difference potentially adding 7m voters to the register if they don’t turn out to vote. I would suggest that it’s mainly disengagement and apathy towards the main political parties rather than the complications of getting onto the electoral register in the first place that is the issue of disenfranchised voters - The Tories (and any Party that forms a Government) should stop perhaps stop treating the North East and Midlands as a poor relation to the South and South West when it comes to investment and infrastructure. Labour strongholds in the North showed some of the lowest turnout in 2019. Even if regeneration has occurred in many parts of the Northern areas of the UK, there’s still the perception of a North South divide.

Some really good graphics on voter turnout behaviour here showing stark regional variations in voter turnout in the last GE.


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Hotchilidog

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nevergoagain

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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The councillor thinks that Bangladeshis were being targeted but the truth is that Sir Keir Starmer was referring to a recent agreement between the two countries.

A Labour Party spokesperson said Sir Keir had "proudly supported the Bangladeshi community across the UK".

"This clip has been edited to make it look as though Keir Starmer is suggesting repatriation of British Bangladeshis. It is misinformation.

"In fact, Keir is referring to Labour's long-established policy of returning those who don't have the legal right to be in the UK to safe countries.

"Bangladesh was only used as an example, as there is already a bilateral agreement between the two countries."


It’s not the first time clips have been edited to change the context. 3 female Tory MPs were in trouble previously for doing it.

I’m sure you didn’t mean to mislead the board by simply post the link to the article.
 


nevergoagain

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Jul 28, 2005
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Leading members of the Labour Party in Islington North, the seat represented by Jeremy Corbyn since 1983, have resigned or announced they are willing to be expelled to campaign for him.

Former Labour leader Mr Corbyn is standing as an independent after the party whip was suspended from him in 2020 - and was never restored - when he suggested the scale of antisemitism in the party was ‘dramatically overstated’ by opponents.

 






aolstudios

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Nov 30, 2011
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Leading members of the Labour Party in Islington North, the seat represented by Jeremy Corbyn since 1983, have resigned or announced they are willing to be expelled to campaign for him.

Former Labour leader Mr Corbyn is standing as an independent after the party whip was suspended from him in 2020 - and was never restored - when he suggested the scale of antisemitism in the party was ‘dramatically overstated’ by opponents.

Good. If they support him they'll be cranks
 










The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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That would be a matter of opinion.
It certainly wasn't exaggerated in Brighton. It oozed
It’s not a matter of opinion whatsoever. There’s truth and and there’s fiction.

The truth is the level of antisemitism in the Labour Party was hugely exaggerated.

Fact.
 


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