[Politics] Labour Party meltdown incoming.......

[beorhthelm]

Isn't there?, a coincidence I'm sure that this figure is the same as the supposed £22bn black hole

Government pledges nearly £22bn for carbon capture projects

Sir Keir Starmer says carbon capture clusters on Merseyside and Teesside will "kickstart growth".

www.bbc.co.uk

it is a conincidence. that funding is over 25 years and was mostly already planned. makes use of the old oil and gas fields, creates a new industry, actual does something useful towards delivering net zero carbon.

 

[nicko31]

it is a conincidence. that funding is over 25 years and was mostly already planned. makes use of the old oil and gas fields, creates a new industry, actual does something useful towards delivering net zero carbon.

By my calc, assuming it works it will cover about 10% of our emissions from domestic heating. This Tory idea seems more about politics than practicality

 

[Curious Orange]

I guess this is over 25 years, still a lot of money. Must admit I'm not a fan of carbon capture, sends the wrong message

Are we we talking about capturing carbon dioxide? Not all of it needs to be stored, it has many uses in industry.

 

[pb21]

I guess this is over 25 years, still a lot of money. Must admit I'm not a fan of carbon capture, sends the wrong message

We'd be better off spending money in reducing consumption is fossil fuels, like insulating the most leaky homes in northern Europe.

Can be used on ERFs too, not just gas fired generators.

 

[dsr-burnley]

I think the private schools themselves can claim some credit due to the 9% price rises they've previously done( and seem to do most years).

Still they'll be filling up unsubscribed schools and allowing them to function more efficiently.

Sorry, what was the bad news?

If there are schools with fewer pupils and smaller class sizes and still people don't want to go to them, then it suggests that making children go to them is bad news. "This school is appalling, let's expand it" is not my recipe for success.

 

[keaton]

If there are schools with fewer pupils and smaller class sizes and still people don't want to go to them, then it suggests that making children go to them is bad news. "This school is appalling, let's expand it" is not my recipe for success.

You are assuming there's a correlation between "bad" schools and popularity and or oversubscription. In my experience there isn't. But the best way to improve those schools ( and therefore support the children attending them) is for them to be as near to full as possible

 

[nicko31]

Are we we talking about capturing carbon dioxide? Not all of it needs to be stored, it has many uses in industry.

There are but most of them involve Co2 re-entering the atmosphere. There's usually a large release if we beat Palace at the Amex...

 

[RandyWanger]

Save 20bn and plant more trees

 

[chip]

Save 20bn and plant more trees

Make renewable generation compulsory in new builds too (It'll even help grid capacity).

 

[Weststander]

Make renewable generation compulsory in new builds too (It'll even help grid capacity).

A £26k cost per dwelling for air source heat pump technology (per R4 this week).

 

[fly high]

A £26k cost per dwelling for air source heat pump technology (per R4 this week).

No, solar panels, especially on large warehouses. Should have been in the last revision of Part L.

 

[pb21]

A £26k cost per dwelling for air source heat pump technology (per R4 this week).

What scenario, big old house retro fit or new build?

 

[Weststander]

What scenario, big old house retro fit or new build?

The average. Not an anecdote.

But I’ve just found this. Current average cost to government/homeowner is £12,800 per dwelling.

Air source heat pump costs and savings - Which?

How much it costs to install an air source heat pump, and how much it could save you on your heating bills

www.which.co.uk

 

[pb21]

The average. Not an anecdote.

But I’ve just found this. Current average cost to government/homeowner is £12,600 per dwelling.

Air source heat pump costs and savings - Which?

How much it costs to install an air source heat pump, and how much it could save you on your heating bills

www.which.co.uk

That applies to retrofit.

The £26k average also sounds suspect, was it the average cost for a 5 bedroom 200 year house?

 

[borat]

 

[Weststander]

That applies to retrofit.

The £26k average also sounds suspect, was it the average cost for a 5 bedroom 200 year house?

The £12,800 corrects them.

 

[beorhthelm]

funny how some people go to so much length to discredit a technology that may be the only feasible way to achieve net zero. it's as if they dont want that to work and have another agenda.

 

[borat]

funny how some people go to so much length to discredit a technology that may be the only feasible way to achieve net zero. it's as if they dont want that to work and have another agenda.

Is it very possible it doesn't work and is just another way for companies to reap huge profits at the taxpayers expense?

 

[Machiavelli]

Is it very possible it doesn't work and is just another way for companies to reap huge profits at the taxpayers expense?

Well, I'm with @beorhthelm on this one. Its current performance is dire granted, but each component part of the technology has been proven to work, so there's no reason why it can't. It could lead to negative emissions too, which is worth reflecting on.
You invoke Monbiot, who has a very good track record on the green transition but has been very vocal in defending nuclear. Do you think he's right on this and, if so, is this just another way for companies to reap huge profits at the taxpayers expense (and, I'd add, produce very expensive energy at the billpayers expense)?

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Well, I'm with @beorhthelm on this one. Its current performance is dire granted, but each component part of the technology has been proven to work, so there's no reason why it can't. It could lead to negative emissions too, which is worth reflecting on.
You invoke Monbiot, who has a very good track record on the green transition but has been very vocal in defending nuclear. Do you think he's right on this and, if so, is this just another way for companies to reap huge profits at the taxpayers expense (and, I'd add, produce very expensive energy at the billpayers expense)?

OMG we agree