I haven't a clue but it stinks to high heaven. What right have Leeds to appeal in the first place? What law did the FL break when they imposed the penalty in return for the Golden Share?
Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊
Leeds to get 5 point back
- Thread starter portlock seagull
- Start date
I haven't a clue but it stinks to high heaven. What right have Leeds to appeal in the first place? What law did the FL break when they imposed the penalty in return for the Golden Share?
steward 433
Back and better
Except the clubs Leeds drop out of the promotion places
Nemesis
SERIOUSLY!
bright1064
New member
So, not a High Court judge then due to:
a) Being former
b) Being from the Court of Appeal.
c) Being a member of a panel, not the sole decision maker.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,574
Well unfortunately (I think) there wasn't anything in the league rules to impose the penalty.
The question is really, what right did the league have to impose the penalty ?
What the rules say is that if you come out of administration the "preferred" route is via a CVA, unless there are exceptional circumstances.
That's about I think.
Nothing about imposing a penalty in return for the share.
This is the point I've been trying to make over the last few days, the rules need to be re-written and agreed. This isn't the first time something "vague" has caused a problem.
ITV Digital anyone ?
The clubs who has REALLY lost the most over this is Boston, who were relegated due to not being able to agree a CVA. Their circumstances were obviously not seen to be exceptional.
Last edited:
Fourteenth Eye
Face for Radio
Whether Leeds get any points back or not, we would be in excatly the same position in the league. I think we should just concentrate on our own game and let Leeds fight their battle (which i hope they lose) We still have a brilliant chance of making it into the play offs regarless of Leeds and their dirty tricks
It always was an arbitration panel and to be a judge in the court of Appeal, you needed to have been a High Court judge.
Enough pedantry.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,574
It always was an arbitration panel and to be a judge in the court of Appeal, you needed to have been a High Court judge.
Enough pedantry.
But do you need to be a judge to be on an arbitration panel
billy_bremner
New member
- Mar 16, 2008
- 62
Boy , none of you know what happened this summer and why we have the RIGHT TO APPEAL and why the football league are pissing in their pants in fear of losing the case to us !
If we really did any wrong , why on earth did they not let us go to the high court. Why wait till the last minute and then agree to arbitration after 6 months !
Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't let your hatred of Leeds delude what reality is. We went into admin and we got the -10 deducted last season ! PERIOD !
There is no rule in the football league books that says you take off -15 from the club if the Taxman behaves like a bastard !!
Please lads , don't be bitter , just take a breather and understand what the real situation is and then argue !
If at all you have a case after we GET OUR POINTS BACK ( not 5 but 15 because it's a simple case , either the FL has done it wrong or they av not ! 15 back or nowt ! ) , you should and will take FOOTBALL LEAGUE TO THE COURT !
We have nothing to do with this . It's their malfunctioning you must be against and by that time , we would have been promoted
Cheers
If we really did any wrong , why on earth did they not let us go to the high court. Why wait till the last minute and then agree to arbitration after 6 months !
Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't let your hatred of Leeds delude what reality is. We went into admin and we got the -10 deducted last season ! PERIOD !
There is no rule in the football league books that says you take off -15 from the club if the Taxman behaves like a bastard !!
Please lads , don't be bitter , just take a breather and understand what the real situation is and then argue !
If at all you have a case after we GET OUR POINTS BACK ( not 5 but 15 because it's a simple case , either the FL has done it wrong or they av not ! 15 back or nowt ! ) , you should and will take FOOTBALL LEAGUE TO THE COURT !
We have nothing to do with this . It's their malfunctioning you must be against and by that time , we would have been promoted
Cheers
cjd
Well-known member
If Leeds want to threaten court action against the football League, because the 15 point penalty created a precedence............then the other Clubs should also take the Football League to court, for creating a precedence in giving the Golden share to a club, who at that point, had previously never existed.
With hindsight, it would have done football in general, a huge favour to let Leeds go out of the Football League altogether. It would have been a salutary lesson to ALL clubs and their fans, that success, should not be bought, by money stolen from tax-payers............and of cousre the St. Johns ambulance.
cjd
Well-known member
Boy , none of you know what happened this summer and why we have the RIGHT TO APPEAL and why the football league are pissing in their pants in fear of losing the case to us !
If we really did any wrong , why on earth did they not let us go to the high court. Why wait till the last minute and then agree to arbitration after 6 months !
Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't let your hatred of Leeds delude what reality is. We went into admin and we got the -10 deducted last season ! PERIOD !
There is no rule in the football league books that says you take off -15 from the club if the Taxman behaves like a bastard !!
Please lads , don't be bitter , just take a breather and understand what the real situation is and then argue !
If at all you have a case after we GET OUR POINTS BACK ( not 5 but 15 because it's a simple case , either the FL has done it wrong or they av not ! 15 back or nowt ! ) , you should and will take FOOTBALL LEAGUE TO THE COURT !
We have nothing to do with this . It's their malfunctioning you must be against and by that time , we would have been promoted
Cheers
I wondered how long it would be, before one of you cretins came on here.........crying your eyes out........."it,s not fair"..."it,s not fair"..........
You wanted a football league club............you had it at the price of a 15 point deduction. YOUR club agreed to this. f*** off back to your own Waccoe board , you whinging Yorkshiregirl.
There was no negotiation involved in the arbitration I was a witness at. It was conducted just like a trial, but in someone's meeting room.
Where there is a possibility of negotiation is mediation.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,574
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,574
Only point I was making is there is nothing to stop them negotiating before is there ?
Parson Henry
New member
Cunning plan Yorkie. Have you and the 'massive' some hoolie clobber? Ned could speak for us and we could cause merry mayhem in the name of Leeds (Champions of Europe).
So:
Ripping up a seat or two = 2pts
Affray in the Market Porter = 2 Pts
Obscene Chanting = 2pts.
Flan Flinging = 1 pt
QED. Leed lose play-off spot.
Enchanting idea adroitly executed
bright1064
New member
Caveman
Well-known member
- Jul 14, 2003
- 9,926
Boy , none of you know what happened this summer and why we have the RIGHT TO APPEAL and why the football league are pissing in their pants in fear of losing the case to us !
If we really did any wrong , why on earth did they not let us go to the high court. Why wait till the last minute and then agree to arbitration after 6 months !
Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't let your hatred of Leeds delude what reality is. We went into admin and we got the -10 deducted last season ! PERIOD !
There is no rule in the football league books that says you take off -15 from the club if the Taxman behaves like a bastard !!
Please lads , don't be bitter , just take a breather and understand what the real situation is and then argue !
If at all you have a case after we GET OUR POINTS BACK ( not 5 but 15 because it's a simple case , either the FL has done it wrong or they av not ! 15 back or nowt ! ) , you should and will take FOOTBALL LEAGUE TO THE COURT !
We have nothing to do with this . It's their malfunctioning you must be against and by that time , we would have been promoted
Cheers
Alright, have the 5 points back next year, at the start of the season, that what be fair to the rest of the teams who have done nothing wrong. Hows that?
Do you think it is reasonable with 7 games left to start changing the table? Sorry of course you do, because you are Leeds the biggest club in the world
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,574
Boy , none of you know what happened this summer and why we have the RIGHT TO APPEAL and why the football league are pissing in their pants in fear of losing the case to us !
If we really did any wrong , why on earth did they not let us go to the high court. Why wait till the last minute and then agree to arbitration after 6 months !
Wake up and smell the coffee. Don't let your hatred of Leeds delude what reality is. We went into admin and we got the -10 deducted last season ! PERIOD !
There is no rule in the football league books that says you take off -15 from the club if the Taxman behaves like a bastard !!
Please lads , don't be bitter , just take a breather and understand what the real situation is and then argue !
If at all you have a case after we GET OUR POINTS BACK ( not 5 but 15 because it's a simple case , either the FL has done it wrong or they av not ! 15 back or nowt ! ) , you should and will take FOOTBALL LEAGUE TO THE COURT !
We have nothing to do with this . It's their malfunctioning you must be against and by that time , we would have been promoted
Cheers
Well I've obviously done a little homework, but please don't come on here with phrases like "the Taxman behaves like a bastard"
No, what happened is unlike MOST club like ours, we don't get ourselves into bother and then find ourselves to pay our tax bill.
The Inland Revenue has an absolute right to try and reclaim the money it is owed.
Sssshhhhh, don't give the game away.