[News] Nigel Farage and Reform

[TomandJerry]

Anyone seen that Starmer has already kicked the Rwanda scheme into touch?

A good start. Apologies if fixtures.

Not sure what this has to do with Farage and Reform?

"Mr Farage said the government's proposals to deport some asylum seekers to Rwanda “doesn't work”

 

[Giraffe]

5 MPS, 4 of which look pretty well qualified candidates is a reasonable start. The vote share suggests 1 in 7 people voted for them. You can’t ignore that. That vote will grow next time or they will move to the conservatives in some form or other.

 

[Simster]

Not sure what this has to do with Farage and Reform?

"Mr Farage said the government's proposals to deport some asylum seekers to Rwanda “doesn't work”

True.

But their.solutuon would be to leave the ECHR which is absolute insanity. In fact, I am concerned that Reform's nonsense goes unchecked all too often by their opponents. If this continues, their brand of populist crap is only going to get more popular.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

5 MPS, 4 of which look pretty well qualified candidates is a reasonable start. The vote share suggests 1 in 7 people voted for them. You can’t ignore that. That vote will grow next time or they will move to the conservatives in some form or other.

If Labour address a significant part of the immigration issue then many will move back to conservatives. I also think that Farages thin skin is going to do him no favours. its one thing being an unelected ****, it’s quiet another being an elected ****. It’ll be interesting to see if his links to Russia are now investigate.
he has cost the Tories dear something which he won’t be forgiven for.

 

[Eric the meek]

Not sure what this has to do with Farage and Reform?

"Mr Farage said the government's proposals to deport some asylum seekers to Rwanda “doesn't work”

Eh? Is that a serious question or are you trolling?

Farage is a disruptor. He went for the Tory vote, disagreed with Rwanda, but now the constituency he went for barely exists, and the policy he disagreed with, is to be scrapped. He needs to stay relevant.

The shifting sands of British politics.

 

[TomandJerry]

True.

But their.solutuon would be to leave the ECHR which is absolute insanity. In fact, I am concerned that Reform's nonsense goes unchecked all too often by their opponents. If this continues, their brand of populist crap is only going to get more popular.

Absolutely I agree with you on that point, leaving the ECHR is a non starter

 

[TomandJerry]

Eh? Is that a serious question or are you trolling?

Farage is a disruptor. He went for the Tory vote, disagreed with Rwanda, but now the constituency he went for barely exists, and the policy he disagreed with, is to be scrapped. He needs to stay relevant.

The shifting sands of British politics.

Well it was a serious question in part, since I wasn't trolling

To me the whole Rwanda policy was firmly a Conservative policy which Labour has revoked.

Farage came out and said it doesn't work

 

[Triggaaar]

Reform party will be getting state funding now of about £950k a year.

I thought the state paid about £2m total, split between the parties (depending on things like vote share)?

 

[Triggaaar]

If that happens, they've not really got a USP as a political party. Apart from being 'anti-woke' and yearning for a return to 'the good old days'.

Farage could just ask us to join the Russia Ukraine war on Russia's side.

 

[TomandJerry]

5 MPS, 4 of which look pretty well qualified candidates is a reasonable start. The vote share suggests 1 in 7 people voted for them. You can’t ignore that. That vote will grow next time or they will move to the conservatives in some form or other.

I think Farage will always have some pull factor and the Conservatives know this, it'll be interesting how the next 5 years unfold.

I suppose it depends who's elected as next Conservative party leader

 

[TomandJerry]

Farage could just ask us to join the Russia Ukraine war on Russia's side.

He could, but he surely isn't stupid enough to do so? If he has real ambitions of progressing that is...

 

[Eric the meek]

Well it was a serious question in part, since I wasn't trolling

To me the whole Rwanda policy was firmly a Conservative policy which Labour has revoked.

Farage came out and said it doesn't work

So it was a serious question then.

Why did you ask what the Rwanda scheme has to do with Farage, and then in your next sentence contradict yourself, telling us he disagreed with it?

IMO, Farage disagreed with Rwanda because he wanted to make a land grab for the Tory right wing vote. Not because he is compassionate about migrants, or because he has a better plan to deal with them.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

5 MPS, 4 of which look pretty well qualified candidates is a reasonable start. The vote share suggests 1 in 7 people voted for them. You can’t ignore that. That vote will grow next time or they will move to the conservatives in some form or other.

Skegness and Clacton will be disappointed when they find their MPs aren’t the slightest bit interested in their dilapidated schools, or the potholes in their streets.

Pecksniff: Farage: ‘Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?’

In which Mr Pecksniff lays before his readers for their approval certain observations and speculations reflecting on the political life

eastangliabylines.co.uk

 

[Triggaaar]

He could, but he surely isn't stupid enough to do so?

As far as I can see, he is on their side

 

[Baldseagull]

I thought the state paid about £2m total, split between the parties (depending on things like vote share)?

The Short money is dependent on seats and votes. It's about £22k per seat, and about £43 for every 200 votes. I reckoned on that basis they would get around £950k. However, I didn't notice that there is a floor and a ceiling to payments made to parties with 5 or less seats, which means the Reform Party will only get £355k from Short money, and a couple of grand for travel expenses.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01663/

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Already treating a woman constituent with contempt.

 

[Eric the meek]

Here's a link, specially selected for the Reform voters:

'UK’s new PM Keir Starmer kills Rwanda plan on first day' - Arab News.

UK’s new PM Keir Starmer kills Rwanda plan on first day, Telegraph reports

LONDON: Britain’s newly elected Prime Minister Keir Starmer has killed off a deportation plan that would see migrants who arrived in the UK illegally sent to Rwanda on his first day on the job, the Telegraph reported on Friday. The newspaper was citing Labour sources, who called the plan...

www.arabnews.com

 

[Berty23]

Equal rights for women would be a good example. Also the right to freedom of religion for all, and the acceptance that their own religion can be insulted without penalty.

Oddly that goes against what is taught as fundamental British values. What about respect and tolerance. It works both ways.

 

[Baldseagull]

Skegness and Clacton will be disappointed when they find their MPs aren’t the slightest bit interested in their dilapidated schools, or the potholes in their streets.

Pecksniff: Farage: ‘Do I want to spend every Friday for the next five years in Clacton?’

In which Mr Pecksniff lays before his readers for their approval certain observations and speculations reflecting on the political life

eastangliabylines.co.uk

But they are interested in potholes and dilapidated schools TB, they need the decay, so they can blame Labour, Tory and ultimately, immigrants for it. Of course, if things improve, it will be because Nigel fought for it.

 

[Baldseagull]

Not sure what this has to do with Farage and Reform?

"Mr Farage said the government's proposals to deport some asylum seekers to Rwanda “doesn't work”

True, he prefers dragging all small boats back to France, some of his members prefer sinking the boats and shooting the occupants, or letting them drown.