[News] RIP Virginia Giuffre

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wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
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Aug 10, 2007
14,087
Melbourne
Very.

Whilst in my view she was not an entirely unwilling participant or innocent party, there is more to this than meets the eye. Andrew pays her off, Epstein dies unexpectedly, and now a suicide having apparently previously found love and produced kids. I would not be at all surprised that dark forces were at work here, maybe my grandsons age group will get the updates in about 50 years.
 


Lenny Rider

Well-known member
Sep 15, 2010
6,404
Very.

Whilst in my view she was not an entirely unwilling participant or innocent party, there is more to this than meets the eye. Andrew pays her off, Epstein dies unexpectedly, and now a suicide having apparently previously found love and produced kids. I would not be at all surprised that dark forces were at work here, maybe my grandsons age group will get the updates in about 50 years.
This.

With the world watching the Pope’s farewell, this almost slips under the radar, very convenient.
 


bhafc99

Well-known member
Oct 14, 2003
7,689
Dubai
Seems likely she became an increasingly sad and troubled person. Ideally she would have been able to retreat to a quiet, normal life, but life rarely follows an easy path.
 






Simster

"the man's an arse"
Jul 7, 2003
55,758
Surrey
Very.

Whilst in my view she was not an entirely unwilling participant or innocent party, there is more to this than meets the eye. Andrew pays her off, Epstein dies unexpectedly, and now a suicide having apparently previously found love and produced kids. I would not be at all surprised that dark forces were at work here, maybe my grandsons age group will get the updates in about 50 years.
This for me too. RIP.

Worth noting that even if she was "not an unwilling participant" (and I suspect you could be right), she was still too young to have been taken advantage of in that way and clearly traumatised forever because of it. So much so that id feels wrong to even mention it.

Anyway, that BBC article will have no "have your say" section. It never does when there is a whiff of royal family around a story. It always has shut down any public dissent when it comes to the royals. But we and they all know what Andrew is.
 
















Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
…except she didn’t nearly die in a car crash. Looks like that post was possibly a more obvious sign of a severely distressed mental state. The poor girl :(
She made a public statement but the local police and bus driver denied it was serious. She then said she hadn’t intended her post to be public.
It sounded very much like a cry for help.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
27,103
West is BEST
However “willing” she may have appeared. I don’t think she did. But a 17 year old is vulnerable by default and not in a position to understand or make informed decisions when being manipulated by adults who have the intentions Epstein et al had.

I’m 48 and if a 17 yr old seemed willing to sleep with me, no matter how much they seemed to consent, it would be an absolute NO.

They took full advantage of a vulnerable young female. There’s no debate here for me.
 










Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
20,815
Valley of Hangleton
However “willing” she may have appeared. I don’t think she did. But a 17 year old is vulnerable by default and not in a position to understand or make informed decisions when being manipulated by adults who have the intentions Epstein et al had.

I’m 48 and if a 17 yr old seemed willing to sleep with me, no matter how much they seemed to consent, it would be an absolute NO.

They took full advantage of a vulnerable young female. There’s no debate here for me.
Not wishing to make light of this sad story but if a 17 yo wanted to sleep with me the first thing i’d think of is Honey Trap 😳
 








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