[Albion] “Some of these players don’t know what a derby means”

[Nobby Cybergoat]

But of the 8 missing players how many would have started if they were fit? For me it's two. Georginio for O'Riley and Veltman for Jack at rb. You could argue Webster for Dunk but there's not much in that and I suspect if push came to shove most of us would go for Dunk despite his wobbles this season.

The injuries have shorn us of options and bench depth but I don't think we can use it as an excuse for today. It was just poor. Again.

You'd also imagine Kadioglu would have been playing given how much we paid for him

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

You'd also imagine Kadioglu would have been playing given how much we paid for him

I genuinely have no idea. He's played about 2 games!

And he cost the same as Weiffer who's season highlight reel is looking like being a horror show. Also O'Riley and Gruda cost about the same and neither of them have jumped out as essential first team starters yet so the fee isn't necessarily a sign that he'd be starting.

 

[Don Tmatter]

Nah because one of our worst players until the bloody subs was Jack and he definitely ‘gets it’.

Not been same player since his injury

 

[Uh_huh_him]

But of the 8 missing players how many would have started if they were fit? For me it's two. Georginio for O'Riley and Veltman for Jack at rb. You could argue Webster for Dunk but there's not much in that and I suspect if push came to shove most of us would go for Dunk despite his wobbles this season.

The injuries have shorn us of options and bench depth but I don't think we can use it as an excuse for today. It was just poor. Again.

Webster for Dunk.
Kadioglu for Estupinan

 

[West Upper Seagull]

Anyone trying to defend the team today need to have a word with themselves and get their heads out of their arse. We were an embarrassment and are total bottle jobs when it really matters. The players got stick from some of us at the end of that, it was totally deserved and the players needed to know it. I’m fuming with that performance

 

[Jeremiah]

Not been same player since his injury

You could say that about most of our team.

 

[birthofanorange]

#ignorebollocksthread

 

[jonny.rainbow]

One of my biggest worries at the moment is how off the boil Pedro looks.

Either he’s overcooked physically or his head is elsewhere. Not the same player he was earlier in the season.

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Webster for Dunk.
Kadioglu for Estupinan

I don't know. Kadioglu has barely played for us, we really can't say that he'd be a starter. He might be or he might be a Weiffer, O'Riley or Gruda.

Webster for Dunk is a 50-50 I reckon. Webster has had enough poor runs and criticism from the fans that if he started over Dunk there'd be plenty of people questioning it, particularly if we lost.

I think our strngest 11 based off of the season is:

Bart
Veltman
Dunk/Webster
JPVH
Estupinian
Baleba
Gomez
Minteh
Georginio
Mioma
Welbeck/Pedro

 

[Uh_huh_him]

I don't know. Kadioglu has barely played for us, we really can't say that he'd be a starter. He might be or he might be a Weiffer, O'Riley or Gruda.

Webster for Dunk is a 50-50 I reckon. Webster has had enough poor runs and criticism from the fans that if he started over Dunk there'd be plenty of people questioning it, particularly if we lost.

I think our strngest 11 based off of the season is:

Bart
Veltman
Dunk/Webster
JPVH
Estupinian
Baleba
Gomez
Minteh
Georginio
Mioma
Welbeck/Pedro

Webster has been one of our best players.
He absolutely sails in ahead of Dunk on current form.

Shame he's made of Pringles

 

[Milano]

One of my biggest worries at the moment is how off the boil Pedro looks.

Either he’s overcooked physically or his head is elsewhere. Not the same player he was earlier in the season.

He’s not a 10, he’s a 9, he doesn’t look comfortable as a 10. We needed to go to a 3-4-3 when Palace went down to 10 men and push him up. We didn’t.

 

[West Upper Seagull]

He’s not a 10, he’s a 9, he doesn’t look comfortable as a 10. We needed to go to a 3-4-3 when Palace went down to 10 men and push him up. We didn’t.

Pedro is absolutely not a 9 and we look toothless when he plays that role because he either comes deep or out wide leaving us completely lacking in the box when it matters

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

Webster has been one of our best players.
He absolutely sails in ahead of Dunk on current form.

Shame he's made of Pringles

He's been good the last few weeks for sure. I don't think he's been miles better over the season. But you can put him in.

So we're three players off our strongest possible 11 with the three being replaced by the club captain and until this season defensive rock, a young lad who's generally been very impressive at right back and a 25million pound signing.

Again, I don't think we can use the injuries as an excuse. The starting 11 wasn't ravaged by them, it's the depth that's been affected. We were poor today, that's why we lost not because of 2 or 3 players missing.

 

[Stato]

We weren't dog shit.

It wasn't a terrible performance.

But we lost.

The players worked hard, but we're missing key players and it was a difficult fixture.

Typical moronic biased OTT comments made by the commentary on all of these tinpot local radio stations.

Nope. Not this time. Palace weren't good. A draw was the least we could have expected. This current lot are great whenever they face a big team that wants a football match. They have failed again and again when facing any team that wants a fight. The same errors every time. Over commit, lose concentration, leave space in behind. The new anti football types: Forest, Villa, Palace all set up to play for those moments. We know that because teams did it to us repeatedly throughout November and December. Yet despite all the talk of learning and improving we still see the same approach. There is nothing wrong with being pragmatic in these games rather than being the mugs every time. We can do it. We did it away at Newcastle and won 1-0. Aspinall is right to criticise. This wasn't just another game against a tough opponent. This was a grudge game not to lose against a team that has only one way of playing. We let them play the way they wanted. Naïve, weak and unfortunately, typical.

 

[Black Rod]

Johnny and Warren are probably the last mainstream media outlet left willing to call things as being crap when they are crap

Naylor is effectively a club spokesman now (ironic given we wouldn't have a club without him being part of The Argus team who rebelled in the 90s) and The Argus have sadly gone the same way. Presumably because both are scared that criticism will see their access restricted

Another reason why we need BBC local radio and people like Johnny and Warren doing it

 

[tigertim68]

Love Warren’s passion! He went off on one at the final whistle (with good reason).

Shame the team didn’t show the same passion as Warren did today

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Performance matches the manager. Boring, uninspiring, monotone shite

Was he boring and uninspiring when we won 6 straight games a month ago?

 

[Weststander]

Nope. Not this time. Palace weren't good. A draw was the least we could have expected. This current lot are great whenever they face a big team that wants a football match. They have failed again and again when facing any team that wants a fight. The same errors every time. Over commit, lose concentration, leave space in behind. The new anti football types: Forest, Villa, Palace all set up to play for those moments. We know that because teams did it to us repeatedly throughout November and December. Yet despite all the talk of learning and improving we still see the same approach. There is nothing wrong with being pragmatic in these games rather than being the mugs every time. We can do it. We did it away at Newcastle and won 1-0. Aspinall is right to criticise. This wasn't just another game against a tough opponent. This was a grudge game not to lose against a team that has only one way of playing. We let them play the way they wanted. Naïve, weak and unfortunately, typical.

Naïve …. are you including Hurzeler in that? I am.

 

[Chicken Run]

This place is gonna be interesting if we lose or draw to Leicester next week

 

[NorthstandRacoon]

Absolutely disgraceful result. I’m so angry, players and manager just do not give a shit about this fixture. f***ing horrendous. The post match comments have been laughable, you can’t be nice to the team about that.