[News] Tesla Takedown 29 March

[carlzeiss]

Well if any of you peeps do decide to carry out some kind of nefarious action on Saturday just be careful as electricity can be dangerous if precautions aren't taken .
And let's face it folks no one wouldn't want to end up being ridiculed in the Daily Mail like this unfortunate fellow now would they

Woke activist's attempt to torch Tesla charges ends in painful agony

Daniel Clarke-Pounder, 24, allegedly burned three Tesla chargers in a South Carolina parking lot.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Randy McNob]

Surely the same people will be busy protesting outside the Chinese Embassy …oh hang on thats not trendy

so you're cool with Billionaires taking over western democracy?

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Part of me, the Schadenfreude bit, is enjoying Tesla's discomfort but I'm also aware that Tesla dealerships are (I'm presuming anyway) privately owned, even family-owned franchise businesses just like any other car dealership. So any attacks are likely to take down a bunch of innocent livelihoods along with giving Musk's sales and production figures a bit of a bruising. I'm conflicted.

Indeed. I'm not sure whether protests against Tesla are going to affect Musk in any way. It will ruin plenty of normal people's lives though.

I'm certainly NOT suggesting that I agree with any attacks or vandalism - just that I can understand how those involved can rationalise their actions. Whereas harassing someone who bought an environmentally friendly car years ago is impossible to rationalise.


I disagree that the protests will not affect Musk, though. Financially, he's obviously barely going to feel it - but reputationally he is. This keeps the fact front and centre of international news that he is an individual that many, many people do not like or trust - and amplifies the discussion of why that is. He won't be enjoying that.

Better will be when the other shareholders of Tesla try to force him out, to save the brand - that will be a big hit to his ego.

 

[Badger]

Absolutely. Anyone giving existing Tesla drivers a hard time - or worse still vandalising their cars, are absolute pricks. The drivers have done nothing wrong and should not be made to feel as though they have.

Targeting the show-rooms, and thus Musk's future sales and company value, is a very different thing altogether, and a whole lot easier to rationalise.

It's a bit different here in North America. Some of those Tesla drivers own a CyberTruck. They deserve all the abuse and ridicule they can get.

I saw 2 of them in the space of about 10 seconds on my run yesterday. It's hard to over-emphasise just how stupid and hideous they are.

 

[A1X]

I shall be taking my Tesla down to the Amex if that counts .

Same, but I will be smashing any Teslas I come across at the Amex

 

[Han Solo]

I suppose if you can put all the well paid Tesla workers out of work it can only mean more work for the slave labourers in China. If that's a good thing?

Well paid Tesla workers?

In Sweden they refuse to sign the collective agreements that protect workers and their rights. The IF Metall union has put the workers on strike until Tesla agrees to raise wages and give the workers the same benefits and insurances they'd get everywhere else in Sweden.

Its a lousy race-to-the-bottom kind of corporation that wants their workers to have no rights.

 

[GJN1]

someone who bought an environmentally friendly car years ago is impossible to rationalise.

See my earlier post about having visible proof of purchase available at all times for passers-by.

 

[Triggaaar]

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I have no beef with @Driver 8. I'll be smashing his car while he drinks his beer.

 

[Professor Plum]

I disagree that the protests will not affect Musk, though. Financially, he's obviously barely going to feel it - but reputationally he is. This keeps the fact front and centre of international news that he is an individual that many, many people do not like or trust - and amplifies the discussion of why that is. He won't be enjoying that.

The big unknown is whether Trump and Musk will be able to successfully weaponise the protests. "Look at these unpatriotic, woke vandals, trying to destroy a great American success story. This is the enemy we need to fight against"-sort of thing. You could see it quickly turning violent with armed vigilantes in MAGA caps protecting Tesla dealerships against equally tooled-up guerilla eco-warriors. Could even be the start of the new civil war that many have predicted, and that some think Trump wants as it would allow him to declare a state of emergency and cancel future elections. Yes, that’s a bit over-dramatic perhaps but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me about Trump and Musk.

 

[LamieRobertson]

so you're cool with Billionaires taking over western democracy?

Not sure I said that..but hey …do I take it u won’t be at the C embassy?

 

[CHAPPERS]

Well paid Tesla workers?

In Sweden they refuse to sign the collective agreements that protect workers and their rights. The IF Metall union has put the workers on strike until Tesla agrees to raise wages and give the workers the same benefits and insurances they'd get everywhere else in Sweden.

Its a lousy race-to-the-bottom kind of corporation that wants their workers to have no rights.

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thehill.com

The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) said Thursday that President Trump signed an executive order limiting numerous agency employees from unionizing and instructing the government to stop engaging in any collective bargaining.

 

[LamieRobertson]

The big unknown is whether Trump and Musk will be able to successfully weaponise the protests. "Look at these unpatriotic, woke vandals, trying to destroy a great American success story. This is the enemy we need to fight against"-sort of thing. You could see it quickly turning violent with armed vigilantes in MAGA caps protecting Tesla dealerships against equally tooled-up guerilla eco-warriors. Could even be the start of the new civil war that many have predicted, and that some think Trump wants as it would allow him to declare a state of emergency and cancel future elections. Yes, that’s a bit over-dramatic perhaps but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me about Trump and Musk.

You’d have been called as a conspiracy theorist if it was on other subject matter …I think you are on safe ground re this thread

 

[Randy McNob]

Not sure I said that..but hey …do I take it u won’t be at the C embassy?

is there a protest organised there?

 

[LamieRobertson]

Well paid Tesla workers?

In Sweden they refuse to sign the collective agreements that protect workers and their rights. The IF Metall union has put the workers on strike until Tesla agrees to raise wages and give the workers the same benefits and insurances they'd get everywhere else in Sweden.

It’s a lousy race-to-the-bottom kind of corporation that wants their workers to have no rights.

Do you think his point re China is wrong?

 

[LamieRobertson]

is there a protest organised there?

Get you scarf and flag and go for it

 

[maffew]

The big unknown is whether Trump and Musk will be able to successfully weaponise the protests. "Look at these unpatriotic, woke vandals, trying to destroy a great American success story. This is the enemy we need to fight against"-sort of thing. You could see it quickly turning violent with armed vigilantes in MAGA caps protecting Tesla dealerships against equally tooled-up guerilla eco-warriors. Could even be the start of the new civil war that many have predicted, and that some think Trump wants as it would allow him to declare a state of emergency and cancel future elections. Yes, that’s a bit over-dramatic perhaps but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me about Trump and Musk.

Trump will declare Marshall law and let the army loose on the "woke" and "left" at some point probably. Then stretch it out and use it as a reason for no election

 

[Scappa]

Do you think his point re China is wrong?

His point re China is at best selective given the role of Musk and his army of DOGE* incels in cutting thousands of well paid jobs in America



(* :VOMITS: )

 

[Han Solo]

Do you think his point re China is wrong?

No, just entirely irrelevant and nothing anyone gives a shit about ever, except when its time for right wing people to ride in on their white horse to defend the multinational, monopoly-building corporations that refuse workers rights and fair wages. Given how people and societies function, its pretty clear no ones gives a damn what working conditions in China... except for when its time for political/class tribalism.

Are we going celebrate and buy Tesla cars made by underpaid, rightless European workers to save Chinese people from being underpaid and without rights? Why are the Chinese slaves/serfs more important to him than the Western ones?

 

[oneillco]

Imagine driving round in a Tesla knowing that just about everyone hates you?

 

[HalfaSeatOn]

The big unknown is whether Trump and Musk will be able to successfully weaponise the protests. "Look at these unpatriotic, woke vandals, trying to destroy a great American success story. This is the enemy we need to fight against"-sort of thing. You could see it quickly turning violent with armed vigilantes in MAGA caps protecting Tesla dealerships against equally tooled-up guerilla eco-warriors. Could even be the start of the new civil war that many have predicted, and that some think Trump wants as it would allow him to declare a state of emergency and cancel future elections. Yes, that’s a bit over-dramatic perhaps but nothing, absolutely nothing, would surprise me about Trump and Musk.

I do wonder what is the % of US citizens that are so hard line MAGA as to take up arms. I really hope it is a figure well below an impactful tipping point.