[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[Bodian]

He could have bitten his tongue.

He rarely does!

 

[herecomesaregular]

He rarely does!

*boom*

 

[Crawley Dingo]

everything you write is supposition, interpretation. it's not accepted none of the bullets went within two feet, a dead person just beyond him says otherwise. the mystery is why anyone want to not believe what they saw in live footage.

Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.

 

[schmunk]

Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.

Yes - millions of MAGA weirdos in the US have been deranged by Trump.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

Yes - millions of MAGA weirdos in the US have been deranged by Trump.

Obese people with boobs and beards, blue hair, septum piercings and who don't know what sex they are calling other people weird has got to be the projection of the decade.

 

[Triggaaar]

Yes - millions of MAGA weirdos in the US have been deranged by Trump.

Obese people with boobs and beards, blue hair, septum piercings and who don't know what sex they are calling other people weird has got to be the projection of the decade.

Dingo's true colours on show

 

[Seagull58]

there are two streaks, you cannot say where start from only where the ends are. there's also a large smudge on the lower cheek, but dont mention that. chatting away as he was there was nothing in his mouth, so why does idea of biting down on something to produce the fake blood come from? i'd have thought a more obvious story would something was in his shoe, when on the floor split open something. nope, got to go with the most awkward scenario because it "fits" with something else that is not important (smears of blood). meanwhile rounds hiting people directly behind him on a path from the shooter get discarded from the theory. clearly a sharp shooter so accurate to just miss.

Do you realise military snipers can hit targets up to 2 miles away? It's quite feasible that the shooter deliberately missed Trump. There's a photo showing one of the bullets in mid-air 2 to 3 feet from Trump as it was passing him.

 

[schmunk]

Obese people with boobs and beards, blue hair, septum piercings and who don't know what sex they are calling other people weird has got to be the projection of the decade.

Ah, you got me spot on there.


Hang on, no, zero for six; you gonk.

 

[Triggaaar]

Do you realise military snipers can hit targets up to 2 miles away?

Yes.

It's quite feasible that the shooter deliberately missed Trump.

So someone has agreed to kill some people in a crowd and then die in order to give Trump a small popularity boost? Really?

There's a photo showing one of the bullets in mid-air 2 to 3 feet from Trump as it was passing him.

I doubt that. The chances a photo was taken at the right moment, and is able to show the a bullet's position in 3 dimensions clearly seems pretty remote to me. More likely to be a fake image.

 

[Seagull58]

So you simultaneously believe there was a shooter, and Trump had blood capsules in his mouth? So Trump ordered the shooter to miss him, a member of the crowd be hit, and the shooter himself have his face rearranged?

Not to mention the fact that the web of conspiracy would have to be so incredibly wide, from Secret Service to hospital workers to the FBI to...

I have stated the facts I am personally sure of. I've not said anything else that I "simultaneously believe" or don't believe I posted the 2 photos and pointed out that the missing piece of his ear in the first pic appears to have regrown in the second pic with no scarring. As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, the hospital medical records have not been released.

 

[Seagull58]

Yes.




So someone has agreed to kill some people in a crowd and then die in order to give Trump a small popularity boost? Really?




I doubt that. The chances a photo was taken at the right moment, and is able to show the a bullet's position in 3 dimensions clearly seems pretty remote to me. More likely to be a fake image.

To the bold bit, I don't know.
Regarding the bullet pic, very feasible to capture this with high-speed multi-shot cameras, which are used all the time by pro photographers, but, of course, it could be a fake image, as could the image of his damaged ear.

 

[Seagull58]

Photographer Doug Mills on capturing bullet during Trump's rally assassination attempt

Pulitzer Prize-winning photographer Doug Mills recounts how his decades-long career drove him to keep shooting after a gunman opened fire during Trump's rally.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Seagull58]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/photo-path-trump-assassination.html

 

[Seagull58]

This, or similar, seems to be the most likely explanation for the pattern of blood on his face. Certainly, it doesn't look like there was any significant damage to his ear.

Of course, "I cut my mouth diving in fear from a gunman" isn't as BRAVE and HEROIC as "I was wounded by an active shooter".

It looks like he's got a hole through his ear and a piece missing.

 

[Bodian]

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It looks like he's got a hole through his ear and a piece missing.

It does. Which makes the regrowth and recovery even more amazing.

 

[Triggaaar]

To the bold bit, I don't know.

I'd suggest it's extremely unlikely.

Regarding the bullet pic, very feasible to capture this with high-speed multi-shot cameras, which are used all the time by pro photographers

A camera could be doing 20 shots a second, but you wouldn't want that when taking photos of a speech (no one needs to look through that many photos). So there's little chance the bullet would be in frame when a photo was taken. And your shutter speed could be 1/500 of a second (little point in being faster than that). A bullet would travel at about 3,300 feet per second, so in 1/500th of a second it would travel about 6.6 feet (3,300/500). So in the photo, the bullet should look about 6.6 feet long. With the bullet probably being about 2cm long, that means it's stretched about 100 times it's length, which means it would be practically invisible. Does that match what you've seen?

 

[peterward]

Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.

Trump and his supporters are deranged Biggums.

Or are you going to endorse this ?

 

[beorhthelm]

Do you realise military snipers can hit targets up to 2 miles away? It's quite feasible that the shooter deliberately missed Trump. There's a photo showing one of the bullets in mid-air 2 to 3 feet from Trump as it was passing him.

i realise that marksman could do that, but also know the shooter was a kid ~150m away. unless we now we have a second shooter...

 

[jordanseagull]

I have stated the facts I am personally sure of. I've not said anything else that I "simultaneously believe" or don't believe I posted the 2 photos and pointed out that the missing piece of his ear in the first pic appears to have regrown in the second pic with no scarring. As I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong, the hospital medical records have not been released.

No, you’re peddling conspiracy theories which require a gunman to have brutally sacrificed his life and agreed to murder an innocent civilian, and a large web of collusion throughout law enforcement and medical professionals. Records released or not, doctors will have treated him.

This is the exact sort of distasteful nonsense I presume you’d be the first to criticise Trump supporters for posting. Anyone can say they ‘don’t know’ when presented with the obvious facts regarding what would have to had happened for this to be staged - murder, suicide and widespread collusion.

Whether he has tried to capitalise on the assassination attempt by exaggerating the injury to rally support is another matter entirely, and probably quite likely.

 

[Crawley Dingo]

It does. Which makes the regrowth and recovery even more amazing.

Why are you assuming the recent pictures are not either doctored or pre-shooting pictures?