[Politics] The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris

[Crawley Dingo]

No I’m sure Trump expressing his liking for Hitler will definitely play badly with his support

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This is a leftwing tactic called bird dogging where a leftist pretends to be a far right caricature(Think of the actor outside of Reform party office in Clacton). Either to get the snapshot of implying a certain group welcomes extremists or to disrupt an event or both.

Google image search says the source of this picture is an anti Trump page of facebook.

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Bird Dogging - Slang Meaning and Examples - FastSlang

Bird dogging is a term that describes a political tactic used by individuals or groups to disrupt and intimidate their opposition. It involves sending people to political rallies or events with the intention of causing chaos, violence, or disturbance. These individuals are usually trained to...

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[peterward]

There is a suggestion on social media that the Trump story is him groping the teenage daughter of one of the donor's at a fundraiser.

That's certainly what's doing the rounds.

And whilst it probably won't affect the rabid MAGA cultists, it doesn't need to.

Just enough swing voters and indepdndents in the swing states.
..... "IF" its true?

 

[Withdean South Stand]

This needs to come out QUICKLY because people ARE voting. It might not be a statistically significant number, but anyone who is a genuine undecided voter (how!) is crucial in this election. Hopefully those people are holding on and voting later in the cycle. I don't think anything could come out which will end Trump's campaign, because he's been doing so much already to make himself seem like an absolute villain.

 

[schmunk]

This is sort of what i was saying voters registering I cant link something I saw in a newsfeed, If you want something more detailed search yourself I am not your mum.

Voter registration data shows California Republicans – not liberals – are flocking to Idaho • Idaho Capital Sun

Almost 30,000 California voters have moved to Idaho and registered as Republicans, according to a new report.

idahocapitalsun.com

With all those incomers, there's little chance of them living in their own private Idaho...

 

[sparkie]

Hopefully the Kremlin Kompromat has been hacked by a clever Ukrainian.

 

[jcdenton08]

The more I think of this Trump Russian kompromat theory the more I think it holds water. It would make a LOT of sense.

 

[Bodian]

This is sort of what i was saying voters registering I cant link something I saw in a newsfeed, If you want something more detailed search yourself I am not your mum.

Voter registration data shows California Republicans – not liberals – are flocking to Idaho • Idaho Capital Sun

Almost 30,000 California voters have moved to Idaho and registered as Republicans, according to a new report.

idahocapitalsun.com

But that does not refer to first time registrations (which is what we were discussing) - but registered voters moving state.

It also rather contradicts your other argument that the Democrats are flying democrat voters into places to rig the ballots!

 

[US Seagull]

 

[Zeberdi]

This needs to come out QUICKLY because people ARE voting. It might not be a statistically significant number, but anyone who is a genuine undecided voter (how!) is crucial in this election. Hopefully those people are holding on and voting later in the cycle. I don't think anything could come out which will end Trump's campaign, because he's been doing so much already to make himself seem like an absolute villain.

Because of that, prepare for a roller coaster ride over the next 2 weeks of breaking stories claiming shock revelations of both candidates, either as fake news or genuine, allegations of fraud and wrongdoing around polling, mail ballots, riots, social media hacks by foreign entities, by domestic extremists, and chat bots cranking up election fervour, not to mention election officials and voters subjected to the most intense and aggressive scrutiny. with numerous court filings being submitted at court.

Be Prepared for Foreign Influence including China being behind much of the chaos

When social media narratives become so twisted and riddled with falsehoods helped by Musk on Fb, it’s impossible to fight against it or for ‘truth‘ even to be heard above the cacophony of internet traffic trying to disguise it - predictably, the Chinese people heavily influenced by Chinese media, are vested in the outcome and wanting Trump ‘who won’t start wars’ - seemingly oblivious to the fact that as with Ukraine and Putin, Trump has been greenlighting President Xi for years over Taiwan and they are being manipulated into believing Trump is the best option for world peace;

However, Taiwan would be very vulnerable under a Trump presidency increasing the risk of a Chinese invasion:

Trump Invites China to Invade Taiwan If He Returns to Office

Another terrifying tail-risk outcome.

nymag.com

Harris or Trump? What Chinese people want from US election

People in Beijing tell the BBC's Laura Bicker their hopes and fears about who will win the White House race.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Igzilla]

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I strongly doubt anything will make a difference at this stage - and when you look at what's gone before him. Trump supporters/apologists/weirdos (whatever you want to call them) will ALWAYS defend him and turn any situation around to be fake news, a plot by the Democrats, an assault on democracy or some such nonsense. It's literally never his fault, according to them.

The whole situation is tedious. The need cycle is childish. The rallies (on both 'sides') are largely just slagging the other candidate off. Please just let it end!

And that guy thinks the US is the greatest country in the world? It's an absolute shitshow, based on what's happening at the moment.

 

[rippleman]

I strongly doubt anything will make a difference at this stage - and when you look at what's gone before him. Trump supporters/apologists/weirdos (whatever you want to call them) will ALWAYS defend him and turn any situation around to be fake news, a plot by the Democrats, an assault on democracy or some such nonsense. It's literally never his fault, according to them.

The whole situation is tedious. The need cycle is childish. The rallies (on both 'sides') are largely just slagging the other candidate off. Please just let it end!

And that guy thinks the US is the greatest country in the world? It's an absolute shitshow, based on what's happening at the moment.

You mean like literally every post on this thread by the dingo and lasvegan? You know, you could be right

 

[peterward]

Feel pretty certain the "groping a minor" video exists and is about to be dropped.

And for one simple reason. There's a frenzy of MAGA supporters saying there's a Harris groping video that's about to drop (no doubt to try and dilute Trumps or try and make it bothsides'ism) plus they've just got #Kamalagropedme as highest trend on X right now.

They're trying to get ahead of story imho and to water it down with reflective BS.

 

[Triggaaar]

This is a leftwing tactic called bird dogging where a leftist pretends to be a far right caricature

Are you referring to yourself?

Google image search says the source of this picture is an anti Trump page of facebook.

The source of the picture is probably anti Trump, the person in the picture if MAGA, like you

 

[Crawley Dingo]

But that does not refer to first time registrations (which is what we were discussing) - but registered voters moving state.

It also rather contradicts your other argument that the Democrats are flying democrat voters into places to rig the ballots!

No it doesn't, both can be true.

 

[Motogull]

This needs to come out QUICKLY because people ARE voting. It might not be a statistically significant number, but anyone who is a genuine undecided voter (how!) is crucial in this election. Hopefully those people are holding on and voting later in the cycle. I don't think anything could come out which will end Trump's campaign, because he's been doing so much already to make himself seem like an absolute villain.

Let me guess. Build up the tension to draw in more viewers and maybe generate more income from ad breaks on announcement day?

 

[US Seagull]

 

[Weststander]

Anyone else here turn the sound to zero when Trump speaks? Newsnight just aired a live minute from his speech. Not for me.

Good article though, on now.

“If Trump wins, it will be because of immigration”. Americans are furious about, Trump has reveled in stoking the fires.

 

[BadFish]

Anyone else here turn the sound to zero when Trump speaks? Newsnight just aired a live minute from his speech. Not for me.

Good article though, on now.

“If Trump wins, it will be because of immigration”. Americans are furious about, Trump has reveled in stoking the fires.

Time to change the writing under the statue of liberty?

People also ask
What are the words written on the Statue of Liberty?

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Not really appropriate any more.

 

[Zeberdi]

Anyone else here turn the sound to zero when Trump speaks? Newsnight just aired a live minute from his speech. Not for me.

no - I want to hear what lies he’s trying to peddle in his desperate attempts to malign Harris

Good article though, on now.

“If Trump wins, it will be because of immigration”. Americans are furious about, Trump has reveled in stoking the fires.

Perhaps Donald Trump shouldn’t have used blocking aid to Ukraine to kill the bipartisan immigration bill then?

“ Republicans in both the House and Senate yielded to objections from their all-but-certain presidential nominee, former president Donald Trump. Once the House Speaker stated publicly that he would not allow the Senate bill to reach the House floor for a vote, Republican senators were unwilling to run the political risk of supporting a measure that would not become law”

The stalled bipartisan border bill Biden wanted to get passed would have:

• tightened asylum restrictions
• created daily limits on border crossings.
• Once that capped was reached, asylum seekers would have been turned away
• allowed the President to "shut down" the border when overwhelmed.

Why did DT object?

Because he did not want Biden to steal his election campaign thunder on the immigration issue.

Conversely, perhaps America should return to DT’s inhumane and cruel immigration plans that separated children from their parents and put them in detention and support Trump’s plans to use the National Guard to round up DACAs and undocumented migrants and carry out ’mass deportations’? No not for the majority of Americans would this be acceptable except for Trumps hardcore MAGA base.

Time to change the writing under the statue of liberty?

People also ask
What are the words written on the Statue of Liberty?

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Not really appropriate any more.

The irony of which I pointed out a less than a fortnight ago on this thread ( which I guess you would have seen unless I’m on your ignore list ) along with the full text of the New Colossus and a photo of Statue of Liberty also posted:

[Politics] - The 2024 US Election - Trump v Harris