[Albion] The Fan Advisory Board Thread

[seagullwedgee]

So, where is the content of the presentation the FAB made to the club? And what was in it? Issues? Concerns? Ideas? Suggestions? Requests? Objections? Priorities? Plans? What exactly?

I am rapidly approaching the stance that the club is taking the absolute piss. And in that case, I feel very sorry for the FAB members, who probably mistakenly think their hard work might lead to change.

 

[Talby]

So, where is the content of the presentation the FAB made to the club? And what was in it? Issues? Concerns? Ideas? Suggestions? Requests? Objections? Priorities? Plans? What exactly?

I am rapidly approaching the stance that the club is taking the absolute piss. And in that case, I feel very sorry for the FAB members, who probably mistakenly think their hard work might lead to change.

The club will point out that they communicate to fans and the FAB isn’t needed. But the communication is one way, decisions that affect fans aren’t open to scrutiny, if the Club do get it wrong they’ll not admit it and if it’s not your bum on a seat, it’ll be someone else’s so that’s all fine!

Banning fans for throwing beer in Ajax but then sitting BHAFC guests in with the home fans who then throw beer at them….one could be construed as poor behaviour and the other could be construed as antagonising the opposition and creating anti social behaviour.

It’s at best bizarre.

 

[dazzer6666]

So, where is the content of the presentation the FAB made to the club? And what was in it? Issues? Concerns? Ideas? Suggestions? Requests? Objections? Priorities? Plans? What exactly?

I am rapidly approaching the stance that the club is taking the absolute piss. And in that case, I feel very sorry for the FAB members, who probably mistakenly think their hard work might lead to change.

Pretty much agree but not sure it’s taking the piss, more just a genuine belief (rightly or wrongly) that it’s unnecessary but had to be done to fall into line with regulatory expectations. I can see why the club hold that view - personally not sure we need it. Like others I feel for the members who have presumably had their initial excitement and enthusiasm squashed as they continue to be more or less discounted/ignored.

Either the club needs to do it properly - ie allow the FAB proper airtime - or it needs to be dropped. At the moment it’s the worst of both worlds with effort being wasted and volunteers being taken for mugs.

 

[jackalbion]

So, where is the content of the presentation the FAB made to the club? And what was in it? Issues? Concerns? Ideas? Suggestions? Requests? Objections? Priorities? Plans? What exactly?

I am rapidly approaching the stance that the club is taking the absolute piss. And in that case, I feel very sorry for the FAB members, who probably mistakenly think their hard work might lead to change.

Agree, knowing some of the people involved, I have no doubt they'd put their all into it, but to me it seems a fruitless task.

 

[Barry Izbak]

Last I heard, the FAB had prepared a presentation to give to the main board in a face to face meeting about 6 weeks ago or more. We asked to see a summary of what was in it, it was denied. At the last minute the club cancelled that face to face meeting, and nothing has happened about the FAB presentation. So, none the wiser, radio silence, no outputs seen….

The meeting with the full board has now been rescheduled to April 18th

 

[Barry Izbak]

Any updates on recent meetings?

Notes from the meeting this week were posted on the FAB website on Wednesday https://bhafc-fab.co.uk/notes-from-meeting-held-on-12th-february/

The FAB discussed the meeting held with the club on 5th February and the action points arising from it.

The main discussion point was upcoming elections for new FAB members. It was agreed that 2 members of the founding FAB would remain in post for a further year to assist in succession planning and give time for new recruits to learn the ropes. A recruitment sub-committee has been formed of Nigel, Gerry and Andy together with someone from BHAFC yet to be named. Gill will get back to the Club with the updates and the minutes of the 5th February meeting with the Club.

An induction with new FAB members will be held in September 2024. Ideas will be sent to the club.

The FAB discussed a recent meeting held at the Club about the proposed Fanzone. Planning permission is hoped to be granted in March. The FAB are aware that Paul Barber asked for fans feedback into the fanzone and the club have asked for that to be delayed until planning permission is granted. It is difficult to see what input will be required but the FAB will investigate further in March.

The Fans’ Forum webinar was also discussed and the date of 18th March confirmed. Gerry will liaise with the club. The FAB are excited to be holding their first FAB forum.

Jo had been representing Brighton WSL fans on tonight’s The One Show and reported that we’d drawn Manchester United in the women’s FA Cup.

Clive reported on a useful meeting with Monster Energy regarding a new flag for the Amex.

 

[Dave the OAP]

The meeting with the full board has now been rescheduled to April 18th

2035…sorry Nigel!

can’t believe the main FAB agenda item is flasks!

 

[brighton_tom]

Clive reported on a useful meeting with Monster Energy regarding a new flag for the Amex.

What does this mean?

 

[seagullwedgee]

The meeting with the full board has now been rescheduled to April 18th

So, in December they asked you to prepare a presentation for a board meeting, they then cancelled the meeting almost at the last minute, they then punted the rearranged meeting forward 3 months, which is virtually end of season by which time season over, renewal period over, and no discussion likely to affect anything this season. So, a key process of engagement that started in December, now taking place in the second half of April. That tells me everything I need to know. I feel very very sorry indeed for those genuine people on the FAB, trying to be a voice, and trying to be heard. But this is utterly, totally dead on its 4rse. If it was a parrot, it would…..

 

[Barry Izbak]

What does this mean?

They are working on a new flag, along the lines of the large RDZ flag.

 

[dazzer6666]

Notes from the meeting this week were posted on the FAB website on Wednesday https://bhafc-fab.co.uk/notes-from-meeting-held-on-12th-february/

The FAB discussed the meeting held with the club on 5th February and the action points arising from it.

The main discussion point was upcoming elections for new FAB members. It was agreed that 2 members of the founding FAB would remain in post for a further year to assist in succession planning and give time for new recruits to learn the ropes. A recruitment sub-committee has been formed of Nigel, Gerry and Andy together with someone from BHAFC yet to be named. Gill will get back to the Club with the updates and the minutes of the 5th February meeting with the Club.

An induction with new FAB members will be held in September 2024. Ideas will be sent to the club.

The FAB discussed a recent meeting held at the Club about the proposed Fanzone. Planning permission is hoped to be granted in March. The FAB are aware that Paul Barber asked for fans feedback into the fanzone and the club have asked for that to be delayed until planning permission is granted. It is difficult to see what input will be required but the FAB will investigate further in March.

The Fans’ Forum webinar was also discussed and the date of 18th March confirmed. Gerry will liaise with the club. The FAB are excited to be holding their first FAB forum.

Jo had been representing Brighton WSL fans on tonight’s The One Show and reported that we’d drawn Manchester United in the women’s FA Cup.

Clive reported on a useful meeting with Monster Energy regarding a new flag for the Amex.

So, basically nothing much at all that impacts the average fan.

Paras 1-4, doing business with yourselves - FAB admin
Para 5, club will do what they think is best but you chatted about it
Para 6, see 1-4
Para 7 - the draw was public anyway

Sorry but cynicism reinforced

 

[brighton_tom]

They are working on a new flag, along the lines of the large RDZ flag.

Great. But can I reiterate a point I have previously made on here… In terms of new flags for the Amex, would it not be a good idea to look at more flags that can fill the grey wall spaces like the Stand or Fall banner, rather than ones that are passed overhead. Flags like this would have less logistical issues and would give the Amex a more Albion blue & white feel. The club can designate spaces, Dogma could design them, the fans could donate to fund them. Easy.

 

[brighton_tom]

They are working on a new flag, along the lines of the large RDZ flag.

Also, if working on a new flag could it be a generic Albion one that can be used long after a manager/player leaves.

Would love to see potential designs at some point.

 

[amexer]

Thanks for those that take part in FAB .Sure your intention is good but with PB at helm with aim to just increase income and any good PR he can distribute you have a tough job Appreciate I may not be right but my interest was P&R , Ticket sharing and clubs lack of any input about travel in general apart from it is nothing to do with them. I have long ago given up on these as they said they wont cover the queue to park and ride brcause of cost and assume saving cost is the reason PB has gone back on his word that Mithras P&R would be replaced. Sharing scheme must have raised lots of money with loads of new members even if only attending one game.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

The meeting with the full board has now been rescheduled to April 18th

Two months time. Clearly FAB isn’t a priority for the club.

 

[Talby]

Two months time. Clearly FAB isn’t a priority for the club.

How it started …2022
How it’s going…oct 2023

Clearly PB isn’t in favour so it’s just dying a death.

There was meant to be a FAB for under 18s too.

The energy of the Club is towards corporate sponsors, tunnel club members and influencers.

 

[AllisonB]

Apologies if I’ve missed it, but did FAB raise the tear gassing issue in Athens with the club ? Given that at least one of their number, Andy Goodchild, was gassed on the night.

Yes still waiting for feedback on that (I was also gassed)

 

[Brian Fantana]

So, basically nothing much at all that impacts the average fan.

Paras 1-4, doing business with yourselves - FAB admin
Para 5, club will do what they think is best but you chatted about it
Para 6, see 1-4
Para 7 - the draw was public anyway

Sorry but cynicism reinforced

I’m afraid to say that this is where I am too.

Most of the updates seem to be either meetings about meetings or else progress on recruiting new members.

I expected things like that in the infancy of the FAB, but we’re now a good deal further on from that in terms of time and I can’t really see what has been delivered. I might have missed things, so more than happy to be enlightened if so.

 

[Giraffe]

The main discussion point was upcoming elections for new FAB members. It was agreed that 2 members of the founding FAB would remain in post for a further year to assist in succession planning and give time for new recruits to learn the ropes. A recruitment sub-committee has been formed of Nigel, Gerry and Andy together with someone from BHAFC yet to be named. Gill will get back to the Club with the updates and the minutes of the 5th February meeting with the Club.

An induction with new FAB members will be held in September 2024. Ideas will be sent to the club.

If ever there was proof of what a pointless waste of time this is, just read this paragraph.

 

[portlock seagull]

They are working on a new flag, along the lines of the large RDZ flag.

I feel for you Barry. FAB is already evidently a complete waste of your time, and others. I’d resign and spend more time with the kids etc. Life’s too short to spend any of it on such a committee.