[Albion] The Japanese imperial flag in the away end at OT

[SeagullinExile]

I can see why you got exiled.

Yup. To get away from your sort

 

[hart's shirt]

Where were the Korean seagulls when we played at Withdean?

Waiting at the Ji-sung Park and ride.

 

[clapham_gull]

I'd just ban flags. All of them.

They are weird and politicised. Including the massive Cornish one of my neighbours erected doing lockdown.

 

[pastafarian]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; international flags have no place at club football matches.

disagree

 

[BN9 BHA]

I'd just ban flags. All of them.

They are weird and politicised. Including the massive Cornish one of my neighbours erected doing lockdown.

A thing of beauty

 

[ManOfSussex]

I'd just ban flags. All of them.

They are weird and politicised. Including the massive Cornish one of my neighbours erected doing lockdown

I've got a mate who's Cornish and he reckons he'd just ban people who don't like the Cornish flag. All of them. Because he's thinks they're shitehouse.

 

[clapham_gull]

Sorry still not a flag fan.

I've got a mate who's Cornish and he reckons he'd just ban people who don't like the Cornish flag. All of them. Because he's thinks they're shitehouse.

Some other flags went up too. Not in a garden, this is the roof of the top floor flat on a high old Victorian building.

It has a flag poll. A bloody big flag pole.

There didn't seem to be any connection between them so I presume the resident is just a big flag fan.

 

[PeterT]

Been at the rugby tonight in Nice - there were a LOT of Japanese flags on show I can tell you!

 

[heathgate]

We're going to have a small Brazil one at the Bournemouth game so our friends back here can see us on TV

Those baastards are chopping down the Amazon rain-forest... how dare you wave it, I am bloody offended.

 

[rool]

Those baastards are chopping down the Amazon rain-forest... how dare you wave it, I am bloody offended.

I'm getting Bolsonaro 22 printed on it just for you

 

[WhingForPresident]

Looking forward to Thurs/Sun when we can moan about the catering again tbh. It's almost been three weeks by then...

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

My perspective is this:

It's a much cooler looking flag than the standard Japan flag, I can fully understand why someone would choose it to support Mitoma.

It does, however, have some quite negative connotations for various parts of Asia, particularly Korea where a number of long standing disputes resulting form the imperial actions of Japan in the not so distant past are still unresolved.

It isn't the national flag of Japan and the only people who I see flying it are the nationalists who drive around in black vans shouting racist and pro japan imperialist slogans. Your every day Japanese doesn't fly or use it(at least in my experience).

It's not a flag I'd recommend using to support Mitoma.

Edited to say: This is not a critique of the fans who had the flag, they almost definitely had absolutely no idea about the history/issues other Asian nations have concerning the flag. I just don't recommend using it again or anyone else buying one. Just use the normal flag.

 

[Chicken Run]

Bit of a questionable move by whoever was waving it. Could cause a great deal of offence, and indeed has already been picked up on by some horrified Korean Twitter followers, amongst others (it's viewed in similar terms to a swastika in South Korea, and by many Chinese people).

Probably more sensitive to just take a normal Japanese flag, no?

I genuinely hadn’t even heard of this flag until your post, as they say every day is a school day and I certainly don’t mind being schooled by you

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I'd just ban flags. All of them.

Maybe we should have flag poll to decide?

 

[Chicken Run]

Maybe we should have flag poll to decide?

Wow you really are on form

 

[BadFish]

Maybe we should have flag poll to decide?

Is it flag day already?

Someone should have flagged it.

 

[Klaas]

My perspective is this:

It's a much cooler looking flag than the standard Japan flag, I can fully understand why someone would choose it to support Mitoma.

It does, however, have some quite negative connotations for various parts of Asia, particularly Korea where a number of long standing disputes resulting form the imperial actions of Japan in the not so distant past are still unresolved.

It isn't the national flag of Japan and the only people who I see flying it are the nationalists who drive around in black vans shouting racist and pro japan imperialist slogans. Your every day Japanese doesn't fly or use it(at least in my experience).

It's not a flag I'd recommend using to support Mitoma.

Edited to say: This is not a critique of the fans who had the flag, they almost definitely had absolutely no idea about the history/issues other Asian nations have concerning the flag. I just don't recommend using it again or anyone else buying one. Just use the normal flag.

By far the most sensible post on this matter.

The Imperial flag is accepted by the Japanese people. It's on their clothes and everywhere.

Erm what? Did you just make that up?

Koreans committed many of the Japanese crimes in ww2.

er, really??

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

I had no idea what the Japanese Imperial Flag was before reading this thread and opening another browser tab and searching.

I'd probably have described it as "that Japanese rising sun thing".

I would hazard a guess that the Albion fans who had this flag may have thought of it in a similar way, and had no idea of the negative connotations of it. That's not to say that makes it OK, but I'd not be too damning on those who had it, who very possibly thought they were just looking to show Mitoma some love.

I was going to post something similar. We don’t all have an encyclopaedic knowledge of the history and development of the Japanese national flag.

 

[portlock seagull]

Very poor and ignorant take.

I doubt it. You simply disagree. That’s different. But I hazard I could run rings around your knowledge of the Japanese Imperial army, and its conduct in WW2. Ignorant I am not, unlike your comment.

 

[Klaas]

There’s a Korean Seagulls Twitter page that’s very upset about.

I just had a click through to see what people were saying and lo and behold there are a couple of Japanese nationalists in the comments. Probably most of you are unfamiliar with these types but they will appear whenever they feel Japan might be being slighted in any way. They then unintentionally show everyone why it is some people might get upset with the kind of attitudes linked with that flag.
(And no, for the perpetual supporters of free speech, well my kind of free speech anyway, I'm not suggesting the people who had the flag at OT meant anything other than a show of support for Mitoma)