[Politics] The Labour Government

[Machiavelli]

They probably still do.
Pension rise is due to Triple Lock that they have promised to honour until the end of this parliament, so I believe. However, if there hadn’t been the hoohaa/cock up over the WFP, I wouldn’t have put it past Reeves to back track on the Triple Lock undertaking. Don’t think she would dare to do that now, but who knows?

Bolleaux.
It was a manifesto commitment, and it'll ensure pensioners have real-terms increases in income during the lifetime of the parliament.

 

[cjd]

Just curious but you seem to think that the "witches running this country" are to blame here. Can I ask what were the Tories going to give you had they got in that would have close gap you point out above? The triple lock is staying, and there was a tax break of £95 per year, strikes me under Tory you wouldn't have got anywhere near 5.4% increase anyhow?

You're normally such an intelligent and interesting poster.....and you are from my home town ( I think in the mauve house along your road..? ...!

However, I'm somewhat baffled at your reply.

I wasn't aware I,m promoting the " giving..or not giving, anything at all of the"Tories" .

My gripe is regarding the utterly spiteful attitude of one of the Labour Party witches, Rachel Reeves decision to stop the WFA.

It doesn't affect me at all as I live in France ( which is considered not cold enough ) and although I pay the majority of my taxes in the UK I am appalled at how spiteful the chancellor of the Exchequer is. I know several people in the UK who will be hard hit by this decision. You know...those people who have a small pension but too big to have pension credit, but have worked all their lives...paid their taxes and taken little or nothing from the state.

But please...crack on ...

 

[WATFORD zero]

They probably still do.
Pension rise is due to Triple Lock that they have promised to honour until the end of this parliament, so I believe. However, if there hadn’t been the hoohaa/cock up over the WFP, I wouldn’t have put it past Reeves to back track on the Triple Lock undertaking. Don’t think she would dare to do that now, but who knows?

I wonder if you are getting carried away with some of the other posters on this thread. Yes they are doing exactly what they said they would do BUT ONLY BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN FORCED. Really ?

 

[Right Brain Ronnie]

Just on this one, you could say this about any profession. I know plenty of doctors, nurses and social workers who terrify me, but I know others that were genuinely amazing.

I think public sector jobs like teaching and the NHS generally have people who start on that career as a vocation, but get ground down by the nature of trying to be a good, passionate caring doctor/nurse/teacher/social worker in an environment that's both financially and/or creatively straight-jacketed. They're also generally the first to be blamed when things go wrong.

In my experience. public sector teachers and social workers rarely go into it for the money, they go into it because it's what they want to do.

You could that I agree. Don'ts start me on doctors, well consultants in particular, they are very much noncommittal, tick boxers with little to know empathy, I have seen more caring slaughterhouse people.
I think anyone in any sector can be ground down, my answer is move on to somewhere you can actual express your passion so you can get the job satisfaction you seek.
Like I said I know a few teachers heads included, and GDPR might as well not exist to them. I would say the public sector are quite loose lipped, it maybe that they get so friendly while bonding on another strike.
Sorry I just don't get strikers, apart from Pedro

 

[tedebear]

You're normally such an intelligent and interesting poster.....and you are from my home town ( I think in the mauve house along your road..? ...!

However, I'm somewhat baffled at your reply.

I wasn't aware I,m promoting the " giving..or not giving, anything at all of the"Tories" .

My gripe is regarding the utterly spiteful attitude of one of the Labour Party witches, Rachel Reeves decision to stop the WFA.

It doesn't affect me at all as I live in France ( which is considered not cold enough ) and although I pay the majority of my taxes in the UK I am appalled at how spiteful the chancellor of the Exchequer is. I know several people in the UK who will be hard hit by this decision. You know...those people who have a small pension but too big to have pension credit, but have worked all their lives...paid their taxes and taken little or nothing from the state.

But please...crack on ...

Seemed like a reasonable question, asked in a very reasonable tone? So why the need for the "you're normally such an intelligent and interesting poster" patronisation? I give up on this place...

and no we are not in the mauve house, which hasn't been mauve for several years now...

 

[cjd]

Seemed like a reasonable question, asked in a very reasonable tone? So why the need for the "you're normally such an intelligent and interesting poster" patronisation? I give up on this place...

and no we are not in the mauve house, which hasn't been mauve for several years now...

lol..I had noticed it had changed colour..!

Maybe I misunderstood the tone of your reply, for which I'm happy tp apologise for.

I won't change from the fact , that like Lady Whistleblower, you are a breath of fresh air to this cesspit of a forum of an alleged "football forum ".

 

[WATFORD zero]

You could that I agree. Don'ts start me on doctors, well consultants in particular, they are very much noncommittal, tick boxers with little to know empathy, I have seen more caring slaughterhouse people.
I think anyone in any sector can be ground down, my answer is move on to somewhere you can actual express your passion so you can get the job satisfaction you seek.
Like I said I know a few teachers heads included, and GDPR might as well not exist to them. I would say the public sector are quite loose lipped, it maybe that they get so friendly while bonding on another strike.
Sorry I just don't get strikers, apart from Pedro

All these 'people you know' who are dreadful at what they do. Have you ever considered that your social circle may benefit from a bit of 'pruning'

Anyway, I'll leave this thread for what it was intended for from the very post

Because as @Bold Seagull pointed out

Show some restraint and just let nevergoagain, is it potg, and right brain ronnie have a thread to themselves. The recent run of posts without any reaction I thought was very funny.

 

[beorhthelm]

There is plenty of money about thigh isn't there. Just need to figure out where it is all going and perhaps send a bit less I. Those directions.

I find it interesting that we are all in a cost of living crisis yet supermarkets who are selling the food to us don't seem to have their profits effected.

I wonder if other companies continue to post healty profits and if they did so during austerity.

I dare say these kind of thoughts make me some kind of communist.

or, just an idea, cost of living crisis has become a meme parroted without a lot of meaning. out and about this summer everywhere was busy, plenty of spending. the supermarkets have plenty of premium lines selling, keeping up profits too. which is good for Labour, profits mean taxes, means more revenue to spend on services. it all cycles around in the end.

 

[Weststander]

So, the the average state pension rise in 2025 will be £400.00 per annum.

The average wage in the UK in the UK( according to Forbes ) was £ 35,880.00

The average increase at July 2024 was 5.4 % which amounts to £ 1,937.00 per annum.


Thankyou so much, all you political parties for your generosity.

Seriously....who the f*** needs the WFA when average earnings increase by £1,937 Per Annum and state pensions by the the almighty £400 per annum.

Forgive me for saying so , but the three witches now running this country ( Sue Gray, Rachel Reeves and Angela Rayno)r can go and f**k themselves.

PS; And please , let the soapbox posters have a field day with their utter bollocks. Off you go....

There’s a ticking demographic time bomb that virtually no politician here on or on the continent is prepared to mention. The cost of state pensions will become untenable. France, Spain and Greece in particular in are deep ****. To summarise, the working population cohort cannot continue to bankroll the triple lock for a rapidly expanding number of OAP’s.

There is actually a solution by making it mandatory for stakeholder pension contributions from a young working age, at decent employer and employee percentages.

 

[cjd]

There’s a ticking demographic time bomb that virtually no politician here on or on the continent is prepared to mention. The cost of state pensions will become untenable. France, Spain and Greece in particular in are deep ****. To summarise, the working population cohort cannot continue to bankroll the triple lock for a rapidly expanding number of OAP’s.

There is actually a solution by making it mandatory for stakeholder pension contributions from a young working age, at decent employer and employee percentages.

A very interesting post.

I received my state pension when I was 65. Despite "chronic heart issues " , I honestly could have done 20 hours a week or more in an office environment.

I don't support the idea of prolonging retirement beyond 65, but in all honesty, the large majority of retirees could work part time ( in a non-labouring position ) for quite a few years beyond 65. IT would help the country and aid the transition from feeling "useful" to being on the scrapheap.

Probably unworkable in practice, but in theory would solve a lot of problems....financial and mental health.

 

[Weststander]

A very interesting post.

I received my state pension when I was 65. Despite "chronic heart issues " , I honestly could have done 20 hours a week or more in an office environment.

I don't support the idea of prolonging retirement beyond 65, but in all honesty, the large majority of retirees could work part time ( in a non-labouring position ) for quite a few years beyond 65. IT would help the country and aid the transition from feeling "useful" to being on the scrapheap.

Probably unworkable in practice, but in theory would solve a lot of problems....financial and mental health.

I’ve never sympathised with the I must retire in my early 60’s on a state pension because the French do it. They increasingly cannot afford it, Macron tried to tackle this. Elsewhere sensible nations such as Germany have accepted increases in the starting age.

I feel for folk such as builders who very often have fckd bodies by 60.

The answer, including for the self employed is a mandatory private/stakeholder pension scheme. Started at age 18 or 21, it really works.

 

[WATFORD zero]

A very interesting post.

I received my state pension when I was 65. Despite "chronic heart issues " , I honestly could have done 20 hours a week or more in an office environment.

I don't support the idea of prolonging retirement beyond 65, but in all honesty, the large majority of retirees could work part time ( in a non-labouring position ) for quite a few years beyond 65. IT would help the country and aid the transition from feeling "useful" to being on the scrapheap.

Probably unworkable in practice, but in theory would solve a lot of problems....financial and mental health.

I'm sorry if I'm missing the point, but why didn't you continue working part time ?

 

[nevergoagain]

All these 'people you know' who are dreadful at what they do. Have you ever considered that your social circle may benefit from a bit of 'pruning'

Anyway, I'll leave this thread for what it was intended for from the very post

Because as @Bold Seagull pointed out

You, leave a thread alone ?, surely not, we'd have read about it in Hobsons believe it or not. (pointless emoji).

 

[Hugo Rune]

Not really, as I said the better schools are always over subscribed.

Parents obviously want the best for their kids.

No they are not. Utter . Take Brighton and Hove for example. No primary schools are over subscribed. You haven’t got a scooby have you!

 

[cjd]

I'm sorry if I'm missing the point, but why didn't you continue working part time ?

I did. I was self employed, but finally stopped as it was a physical job. I basically lived in France for three weeks and worked in the UK for one week.

Sorry if this has offended the biggest and most obnoxious mouth on NSC.

 

[WATFORD zero]

You, leave a thread alone ?, surely not, we'd have read about it in Hobsons believe it or not. (pointless emoji).

Well played

But I was genuinely interested why @cjd couldn't continue working and felt he was 'on the scrapheap'

 

[WATFORD zero]

I did. I was self employed, but finally stopped as it was a physical job. I basically lived in France for three weeks and worked in the UK for one week.

Sorry if this has offended the biggest and most obnoxious mouth on NSC.

Charmed, I'm sure. Could you not find other work that wasn't physical that would allowed you to work part time, either in France or here, depending on where you chose to live ?

I know a lot of people who have changed career completely to spend their later years working part time.

 

[cjd]

Charmed, I'm sure. Could you not find other work that wasn't physical that would allowed you to work part time, either in France or here, depending on where you chose to live ?

I know a lot of people who have changed career completely to spend their later years working part time.

Try and not be a twat all your life , there,s a good fellow.

Find someone else to have your persistent and everlasting arguments with. Maybe even get a job so you have something useful in your life other than 27,000 posts on this forum.

 

[WATFORD zero]

Try and not be a twat all your life , there,s a good fellow.

Find someone else to have your persistent and everlasting arguments with. Maybe even get a job so you have something useful in your life other than 27,000 posts on this forum.

I do have a job, a very enjoyable part time one and have had since I retired nearly 15 years ago thanks

If you continually abuse people for no reason, don't be surprised if they stop trying to help you

A very interesting post.

I received my state pension when I was 65. Despite "chronic heart issues " , I honestly could have done 20 hours a week or more in an office environment.

I don't support the idea of prolonging retirement beyond 65, but in all honesty, the large majority of retirees could work part time ( in a non-labouring position ) for quite a few years beyond 65. IT would help the country and aid the transition from feeling "useful" to being on the scrapheap.

Probably unworkable in practice, but in theory would solve a lot of problems....financial and mental health.

 

[Weststander]

No they are not. Utter . Take Brighton and Hove for example. No primary schools are over subscribed. You haven’t got a scooby have you!

Out of interest, is that a recent thing from a shrinking kids demographic, hence the two schools BHCC Labour council are closing?

15 years ago when we were starting the process, Balfour and Westdene were hugely oversubscribed. We know loads of people who lied by eg pretending they lived at their grandparents houses in the catchments.