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[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***
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From my perspective I'm delighted that the share of the vote is going to be central to the news and will, I hope, push PR up the agenda
- Oct 17, 2008
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Sorry to quote my own post, but I’ve actually got a friend whose Dad lives in the area and is a Tory activist. Lib Dems looking very, very pleased and lots of glum Conservative faces.
Looks like Hunt’s going!
You can't really vote for change if you live in a constituency where Labour were already in and there's never any realistic prospect of them losing.Yup. For all Starmer going on about “If you want change you have to go out and vote for it” for 6 weeks solid, it seems like err, nobody really has.
One of the frustrations of the results is that the first seats announced don't tell us much about anything unless you're John Curtice and have access to a load of exit poll data and a huge pile of algorithms.
You’ll have to point me to where I said that?
But on early results it seems that Starmer hasn’t managed to galvanise any popular support or ‘connect with the people’ as Streeting claimed. It’s just the same as it was before but the Tory party has collapsed.
Seems pretty straightforward.
Yup. For all Starmer going on about “If you want change you have to go out and vote for it” for 6 weeks solid, it seems like err, nobody really has.
The likely result is built on Reform / Tory splitting the same part of the electorate. A fed up of politics public aren’t enthused by current politicians. Farage is the one person who could talk the hind legs off a donkey, but runs a racist party, his tax-spend shopping list is fantasy. Not a feel of 1997.
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Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,116
Labour are obviously going to walk this .... But with such a poor turn out
People have given up
People have given up
HangletonGull
Well-known member
- Apr 10, 2023
- 1,842
Rishi resining from leader of the Tory party today apparently
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
As was indicated by all the recent by-elections too, but with added protest votes with Reform.
Labour 'Dawn Butler' doing well. Interviewers trying to get her to admit to loving Jeremy.
Hang on.... 'people will be wanting a debate about PR' FFS. WTF? Not labour people, you daft bat.
Calling @Sid and the Sharknados for withering comment or merely a
Hang on.... 'people will be wanting a debate about PR' FFS. WTF? Not labour people, you daft bat.
Calling @Sid and the Sharknados for withering comment or merely a
I would love it if they lost. Love it.
HangletonGull
Well-known member
- Apr 10, 2023
- 1,842
Corbyn to win Islington
This. He hasn’t.
Possibly partly deliberately. They just stood back and watched the crises, then all Labour’s Xmas’s came at once when Parker threw his hate in the ring. Also, shit scarred of making a crucial blunder.
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happypig
Staring at the rude boys
was 69.5% in 2019
Rory Stewart predicted on The Rest Is Politics the other evening that the immediate fall out from this election would be about electoral reform.
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
With a large vote for Reform (which will mainly be a protest vote), the pressure will be on Labour to actually effect some change for the better and quickly. Alistair Campbell is right - there are no such things as 10 year elections nowadays and anything could happen in 5 years time.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,408
Yes agreed, might not get much done today though.I’m quite liking watching in daylight in this time zone
Pevenseagull
Anti-greed coalition
- Jul 20, 2003
- 20,116
Tories collapse, labour get more votes than the Tories (miles more) and win. Without popular support? If only they were as popular as they had been when Jeremy was leader. Then we may be looking at a labour government tomorrow.
Oh....hang on...
Well, I don't mind admitting to being a Labour member.Labour 'Dawn Butler' doing well. Interviewers trying to get her to admit to loving Jeremy.
Hang on.... 'people will be wanting a debate about PR' FFS. WTF? Not labour people, you daft bat.
Calling @Sid and the Sharknados for withering comment or merely a
Doesn't feel on message though does it?
You can call me unpleasantly cynical, and you'd be right because I am, but I'd much rather be having this conversation from a position of what appear to be reasonably sensible and competent people gaming the system to win a massively disproportionate majority than the alternative.