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[Albion] Tony Bloom interview



Anger

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Are you telling me De Zerbi was sacked?
You know what? I think that in all probability and having considered the many and varied opinions on the subject, I have come to the very conclusion that he was and not to put too fine a point on it, given the old heave-ho.
 




Guinness Boy

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He was pissed off at the time of signing his. !!

I always remember the interview when everyone else was excited and he said through gritted teeth that fati was 'very expensive '
Bloom himself says on a link in this thread “Mike was at the forefront…..deciding which players to go for between myself, David and Mike……in terms of players to go for that comes very much from the data, the recruitment team and the scouts”. He doesn’t then add “except for Dahoud, Fati and Igor”. Bloom literally slays the NSC myth and you repeat it on the same thread. Laughable as usual.

Furthermore

Well, on a recent Athletic podcast covering the Albion (I listened/watched off youtube; warning, the same advert is repeated about 10x through it), one of the points they made is that our signings in the summer of 2023 targeted European experience -- we had very little going into that summer. Hence, Igor, Dahoud and -- recall, just on a one year loan -- Fati.
I think this explains it. We added European experience into the data. It also explains Milner to some extent.

Ultimately it was our first ever season in Europe and mistakes were made across the board. It’s certainly not unusual. West Ham’s Premier League season was absolutely awful the season they won the Conference League.

Super Fab doesn’t have any of those issues. Two of those players are gone and one will be fourth choice. He’s got more new toys than a kid at Christmas and no European tour to worry about. The test for him will be, if we get to Europe, how to use those toys better. And it’s good that our relatively inexperienced coach will have a season or two before he has to worry about managing travel and rotation.

That doesn’t mean RDZ handled it particularly well. A good first half of the season but after the January window the relationship was clearly very broken indeed. TB makes that clear too if you read between the lines.

As for Potter, Europe isn’t really something you have to worry about when you finish on circa 40 points.
 


Hugo Rune

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A lovely analysis of how Bloom’s long planning phase and execution of the recent transfer window saw us become the highest net spenders in Europe and the profile of player we normally sign totally switch.


A second European tour, but this time, a shopping one for Brighton’s recruitment team over the summer of ‘24, saw them take amongst the best players and prospects from Scotland, Netherlands, Germany, Turkey and America.
 
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Tom Hark Preston Park

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A lovely analysis of how Bloom long planning and
execution of the recent transfer window saw us be the highest net spenders in Europe but how the profile of player we normally sign totally switched.


A second European tour, but this time for Brighton’s recruitment team over the summer of ‘24, saw them take amongst the best players and prospects from Scotland, Netherlands, Germany, Turkey and America.
Good article, that :clap2:
 


Han Solo

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Yeah maybe. Fati tho…? On that amount of wages per week? If that is the case, it’s a harsh lesson learned and not one I’d expect TB to have to learn the hard way!
That deal was as unBrighton as it gets. Player has success = can't buy him. Player doesn't have success = not worth the wages.

In the best case scenario we were going to get a one season wonder, and whats the likelihood of that when sharing position with the best player in the team?

Mitoma got injured eventually so it could have been a slick move... if he had got the chance, but he only started one game after returning from injury in January, so he really didn't get the chance (tbf the little he played wasn't exactly brilliant).

If his reported £11,760,547 salary is correct and we payed all of it (and no loan fee), then we paid him £23k per minute of Premier League football. It must be considered one of the worst moves this club has made on the transfer market.
 




Machiavelli

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Bloom himself says on a link in this thread “Mike was at the forefront…..deciding which players to go for between myself, David and Mike……in terms of players to go for that comes very much from the data, the recruitment team and the scouts”. He doesn’t then add “except for Dahoud, Fati and Igor”. Bloom literally slays the NSC myth and you repeat it on the same thread. Laughable as usual.

Furthermore


I think this explains it. We added European experience into the data. It also explains Milner to some extent.

Ultimately it was our first ever season in Europe and mistakes were made across the board. It’s certainly not unusual. West Ham’s Premier League season was absolutely awful the season they won the Conference League.

Super Fab doesn’t have any of those issues. Two of those players are gone and one will be fourth choice. He’s got more new toys than a kid at Christmas and no European tour to worry about. The test for him will be, if we get to Europe, how to use those toys better. And it’s good that our relatively inexperienced coach will have a season or two before he has to worry about managing travel and rotation.

That doesn’t mean RDZ handled it particularly well. A good first half of the season but after the January window the relationship was clearly very broken indeed. TB makes that clear too if you read between the lines.

As for Potter, Europe isn’t really something you have to worry about when you finish on circa 40 points.
Yes, and worth adding that we won't have that same problem about European experience if we qualify again.
 


Coldwaltham Seagull

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The narrative about the Fati and Dahoud signings is what I can’t get my head around. If the club’s philosophy is that they identify the players and the coach plays them, why did they agree to those (allegedly) RDZ signings? We all know u don’t mess with TB, so why didn’t the club say to RDZ “no, we’re not signing your crap suggestions - u know the rules!”?

I would imagine for all of them experience of playing European football played into it. Aside from that I can only speculate that Dahoud would have been seen as a lower risk due to signing on a free, and perhaps Fati would have had some commercial influence being such a recognisable name/talent.
 










peterward

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Interesting that he talks about top 5 specifically... suggests Champions League is the target they're talking about at the club, and why not? Exciting times.
As a fan I'd be delighted with Europa league again, as we're competitive and whilst tough, winning it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

CL you'd have to think would be beyond us winning it, but then again i guess from Tony's side, the kudos and recognition plus the money from being in Europe's elite competition is probably worth it, and with the new league system we'll get a few glamour ties at the Amex and at least 8 games overall, plus it would make it easier to get potential players to sign.
 






Greg Bobkin

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As a fan I'd be delighted with Europa league again, as we're competitive and whilst tough, winning it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility.

CL you'd have to think would be beyond us winning it, but then again i guess from Tony's side, the kudos and recognition plus the money from being in Europe's elite competition is probably worth it, and with the new league system we'll get a few glamour ties at the Amex and at least 8 games overall, plus it would make it easier to get potential players to sign.
I had pretty much zero interest in the CL this season until this week, when Bobkin Jnr was watching the Liverpool game and then I caught a bit of the Madrid game last night. I then looked at the table with about 40 teams and saw that three (I think) teams down the bottom had a record of played eight, lost eight. Is that worth it for the opportunity to be part of it, or does it do more harm than good to the domestic situation?

I'm not saying that Brighton would fare THAT badly but, like you say, winning it or even getting close would be a bit of a stretch.
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

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I had pretty much zero interest in the CL this season until this week, when Bobkin Jnr was watching the Liverpool game and then I caught a bit of the Madrid game last night. I then looked at the table with about 40 teams and saw that three (I think) teams down the bottom had a record of played eight, lost eight. Is that worth it for the opportunity to be part of it, or does it do more harm than good to the domestic situation?

I'm not saying that Brighton would fare THAT badly but, like you say, winning it or even getting close would be a bit of a stretch.
To qualify you have to be at least the 5th best team in the PL. The 5th best team in the PL is probably a top half team in the CL. So, no we would be very unlikely to win it but also unlikely to be humiliated either.

That said, I'll be happy with any European adventure if we manage to achieve it. I'm not at the point of thinking about actually winning a European cup just yet.
 




Greg Bobkin

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To qualify you have to be at least the 5th best team in the PL. The 5th best team in the PL is probably a top half team in the CL. So, no we would be very unlikely to win it but also unlikely to be humiliated either.

That said, I'll be happy with any European adventure if we manage to achieve it. I'm not at the point of thinking about actually winning a European cup just yet.
I take your point, but then PSG finished in 15th and Manchester City 22nd. Like you I'd be happy with another European campaign in any competition, but I'm just thinking about the knock-on effect on the domestic league. Although we seemed to do OK last time until the turn of the year and, ironically, after getting knocked out!
 




Mancgull

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Seems to have gone under the radar but Tony has just acquired a 19.1% stake in Melbourne Victory.
States that it will give him an interest when he’s in Australia.
Also states that Melbourne Victory have agreed t deal to link up with Jamestown Analytics which makes sense.
Give a club a tool to succeed and then buy a stake in the club.
 






ConfusedGloryHunter

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I take your point, but then PSG finished in 15th and Manchester City 22nd. Like you I'd be happy with another European campaign in any competition, but I'm just thinking about the knock-on effect on the domestic league. Although we seemed to do OK last time until the turn of the year and, ironically, after getting knocked out!
We could also look at the bigger picture and what a CL season brings: A raised profile internationally, priceless experience for our players, increased chance of signing our target players, increased chance of retaining our best players (including signing of new contracts) and this is before considering what we could do with the increase in revenue.

Now I've talked myself into wanting it, we are bound to bomb the rest of the season. I can only apologise to everyone.
 


schmunk

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I had pretty much zero interest in the CL this season until this week, when Bobkin Jnr was watching the Liverpool game and then I caught a bit of the Madrid game last night. I then looked at the table with about 40 teams and saw that three (I think) teams down the bottom had a record of played eight, lost eight. Is that worth it for the opportunity to be part of it, or does it do more harm than good to the domestic situation?

I'm not saying that Brighton would fare THAT badly but, like you say, winning it or even getting close would be a bit of a stretch.
Villa, who are of a similar standard to Albion, finished 8th of 36 with 5 wins and a draw. A kind tie in the Round of 16 means that they're now through to the Round of 8*.




* against PSG... Errrmmm...
 


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