[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[peterward]

If Putin appointed Mishustin as Prime Minister, but Mishustin is the de facto head of a group of elites that try to distance themselves from discussion about the war...then I'm quite confused.
Maybe Putin felt less threatened by Mishustin than by the previous incumbent .

I think Mashutin was elevated (during covid) because he showed a level of competence in the tax office.

But as with any appointment, if they ever start to threaten Putins grip on power in any way, they will be disposed of.

The tax office raid may well be a precursor to "finding corruption" violations, Putins kangaroo court will rubber stamp?

 

[Eric the meek]

'humanitarian' oh do eff off Putin

Putin announces Easter ceasefire, calls on Ukraine to follow

Editor's note: This is a developing story. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a temporary ceasefire on the Easter weekend, ordering to halt all military action from 6 p.m. Moscow time on April 19 until midnight on April 21. Putin announced the order during a meeting with the Russian Chief

kyivindependent.com

He's kidding no-one.

He wouldn't call a two day ceasefire unless it suited him. Potential reasons might be:

1. He's playing Trump again.
2. Russian commanders have asked for a respite.
3. They weren't planning any operations over Easter anyway.
4. They are running short of some things and need time to re-stock.
5. Ukraine was gaining the upper hand, so called the time out.

What it won't be due to, is Putin having a humanitarian thought, or some kind of epiphany after 38 months of relentless brutality.

 

[SouthSaxon]

He's kidding no-one.

He wouldn't call a two day ceasefire unless it suited him. Potential reasons might be:

1. He's playing Trump again.
2. Russian commanders have asked for a respite.
3. They weren't planning any operations over Easter anyway.
4. They are running short of some things and need time to re-stock.
5. Ukraine was gaining the upper hand, so called the time out.

What it won't be due to, is Putin having a humanitarian thought, or some kind of epiphany after 38 months of relentless brutality.

Zelenskyy mentioned the Russians are building up new forces for a summer offensive. A ceasefire now allows Russia to finish that without the Ukrainians blasting everything to shit with FPV drones.

 

[Bodian]

He's kidding no-one.

He wouldn't call a two day ceasefire unless it suited him. Potential reasons might be:

1. He's playing Trump again.
2. Russian commanders have asked for a respite.
3. They weren't planning any operations over Easter anyway.
4. They are running short of some things and need time to re-stock.
5. Ukraine was gaining the upper hand, so called the time out.

What it won't be due to, is Putin having a humanitarian thought, or some kind of epiphany after 38 months of relentless brutality.

If he announces a ceasefire, Trump will relax sanctions. Then he can go back to all out war again as Trump won't re-impose sanctions.

 

[raymondo]

A comment from someone to Putin's ceasefire announcement:
- Putin tells his front line to stop firing
- this may encourage Ukrainians into the streets for Easter gatherings
- Russia hits them with aerial missiles, shaheds etc.

Sounds likely to me. Once a lier and a murderer... always...

 

[Albion my Albion]

Sounds likely to me. Once a lier and a murderer... always...

Who? Putin or Trump?

 

[raymondo]

Who? Putin or Trump?

You're right

 

[raymondo]

Now THIS is good for Easter

 

[fly high]

Zelenskyy mentioned the Russians are building up new forces for a summer offensive. A ceasefire now allows Russia to finish that without the Ukrainians blasting everything to shit with FPV drones.

They have tried full on attacks and been wiped out. Can see them moving troops up to the front ready to attack first thing Tuesday morning.

 

[raymondo]

They have tried full on attacks and been wiped out. Can see them moving troops up to the front ready to attack first thing Tuesday morning.

Hopefully more will be wiped out

 

[Bodian]

'humanitarian' oh do eff off Putin

Putin announces Easter ceasefire, calls on Ukraine to follow

Editor's note: This is a developing story. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced a temporary ceasefire on the Easter weekend, ordering to halt all military action from 6 p.m. Moscow time on April 19 until midnight on April 21. Putin announced the order during a meeting with the Russian Chief

kyivindependent.com

Zelenskyy says Russia still firing on Ukraine despite ‘Easter truce’

Kremlin proclaimed a temporary ceasefire, but Russian artillery fire is continuing, according to Ukrainian president

www.theguardian.com

 

[raymondo]

Zelenskyy says Russia still firing on Ukraine despite ‘Easter truce’

Kremlin proclaimed a temporary ceasefire, but Russian artillery fire is continuing, according to Ukrainian president

www.theguardian.com

So, a Russian ceasefire lasted...hmmm...30 seconds maybe,

 

[peterward]

So, a Russian ceasefire lasted...hmmm...30 seconds maybe,

are you surprised?

 

[raymondo]

are you surprised?

It lasted longer than i thought

 

[Sirnormangall]

I think Mashutin was elevated (during covid) because he showed a level of competence in the tax office.

But as with any appointment, if they ever start to threaten Putins grip on power in any way, they will be disposed of.

The tax office raid may well be a precursor to "finding corruption" violations, Putins kangaroo court will rubber stamp?

Yes this looks like the start of a campaign to discredit Mashutin - he’s become too popular and needs to be put in his place.

 

[Eric the meek]

It might be

It lasted longer than i thought

Russia being Russia, i.e. wholly untrustworthy, we won't know if or when the war is about to come to an end, if only because Russia has run out of troops or equipment.

If they announce a ceasefire, no-one will be able to trust them anyway. So the war could in theory drag on for a while even after the Russian war machine has ground to a halt.

 

[fly high]

It might be

Russia being Russia, i.e. wholly untrustworthy, we won't know if or when the war is about to come to an end, if only because Russia has run out of troops or equipment.

If they announce a ceasefire, no-one will be able to trust them anyway. So the war could in theory drag on for a while even after the Russian war machine has ground to a halt.

And surely it demonstrates to Trump and his cohorts Russia can NEVER be trusted.

 

[Binney on acid]

And surely it demonstrates to Trump and his cohorts Russia can NEVER be trusted.

Sadly not. The orange one lacks the intelligence to reach such a conclusion. He'll find a way to discredit Zelensky when Mr Genocide choses to ignore his own ceasefire.

 

[SouthSaxon]

 

[Eric the meek]

Some good points in there. The gist of it is Nato needs to catch up with the advances Ukraine (and Russia) have made in drone warfare and EW.

Perhaps he saved the most important point until last. It is obviously based on the experience of Ukraine. Nato must be prepared to defend its territory before Russia makes a bridgehead. If it does, then Nato probably won't be able to get those territories back. A sobering thought.