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[Football] Wrexham







Uh_huh_him

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We were promoted twice, and I don't think we were among the top few spenders either time.
Tony, pretty much went shit or bust in the promotion season, taking us to the limit of what FFP would allow.
So much so that we would have been unlikely to go again, in the following season had it failed.

So I suspect we were very close to the top spenders in the season we were promoted to the Premier league.
Depending on how you define "top spenders" of course.
 
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Doonhamer7

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I remember reading that they approached 5 or 6 national league teams - all the others laughed at them. Look who’s laughing now.
 


Robdinho

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Wow a big surprise a bunch of Welshmen boo the English national anthem!
And English fans NEVER boo a national anthem!

To those saying they've bought success, name one club (who've had success, obviously) who haven't spent a load of money to achieve it. We certainly have. That's been the reality of football for as long as I can remember.

People can make excuses to themselves as to why they don't like Wrexham climbing the leagues, but it basically comes down to two things, simple jealousy and a belief (conscious or not) that "teams like Wrexham" should know their place.
 






Triggaaar

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Tony, pretty much went shit or bust in the promotion season, taking us to the limit of what FFP would allow.
So much so that we would have been unlikely to go again, in the following season had it failed.

That doesn't ring a bell for me. Have you got any links?


So I suspect we were very close to the top spenders in the season we were promoted to the Premier league.
Depending on how you define "top spenders" of course.

My definition is based on how much profit/loss a team made, for FFP purposes.
 




Triggaaar

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The Argus one covers the loss, which also included £9.1m bonuses that wouldn't have been paid had we not been promoted.

El Pres's article (and I challenge anyone to read the whole thing without a nap) talks about the possibility of us scaling back had we not won promotion, but it doesn't compare our spend to other clubs. I'm not convinced we spent more, or lost more than the rest. I assume Wrexham have outspent the competition?
 
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Uh_huh_him

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The Argus one covers the loss, which also took into account bonuses that wouldn't have been paid had we not been promoted.
El Pres's article (and I challenge anyone to read the whole thing without a nap) talks about the possibility of us scaling back had we not won promotion, but it doesn't compare our spend to other clubs. I'm not convinced we spent more, or lost more than the rest. I assume Wrexham have outspent the competition?
Sure - but your original post was: "and I don't think we were among the top few spenders either time"
Even taking into account the Promotion bonuses, we lost £29m of a maximum of £40m over 3 seasons.
It would be highly unlikely that we weren't amongst the top few spenders in that season.
 


Triggaaar

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Sure - but your original post was: "and I don't think we were among the top few spenders either time"
Even taking into account the Promotion bonuses, we lost £29m of a maximum of £40m over 3 seasons.
It would be highly unlikely that we weren't amongst the top few spenders in that season.

Yeah I'm just going from memory. I thought we were miles off the top spenders in League 1, and didn't think we made the top few in the Championship, but I could be wrong. I don't think our spending was comparable to Wrexham's.
 


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Yeah I'm just going from memory. I thought we were miles off the top spenders in League 1, and didn't think we made the top few in the Championship, but I could be wrong. I don't think our spending was comparable to Wrexham's.

Sadly, I perused the 2010/11 L1 accounts at the time (when all published) :lol: . I think we had the 6th biggest spend. Stains spent on steroids, Lambert cost £1m ….making “are you keeping up?” all the more sweet.

I think our wages spend 2016/17 was about 6th excluding the bonuses? El Pres will know.
 








Triggaaar

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Sadly, I perused the 2010/11 L1 accounts at the time (when all published) :lol: . I think we had the 6th biggest spend. Stains spent on steroids, Lambert cost £1m ….making “are you keeping up?” all the more sweet.

I think our wages spend 2016/17 was about 6th excluding the bonuses? El Pres will know.

Thanks. How does this compare with Wrexham over the last 3 seasons?
 




Weststander

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Thanks. How does this compare with Wrexham over the last 3 seasons?

We know they’d be top spenders for the first two promotions …. it caused much jealousy, touched on in the Disney series.

It’ll be ages before all the 2024/25 L1 company accounts are filed. So anyone saying they know is guessing.
 




Next year will be interesting.

The gap between League 1 and the Championship is Sheffield Wednesday levels of massive

Conference - League 1 is much of a muchness
Funnily enough that’s changing thanks to the Wrexhams of this world - there is more money flooding into the likes of League 1 these days than ever before. Other teams like Stockport also have rich owners.

This has definitely been Wrexham’s hardest promotion. Only Wycombe blowing it in the home straight got them in, I reckon Wrexham would have had a hard time in playoffs. They do indeed need a big squad refresh next season
 






Brovion

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Wrexham's revival and the media circus has rubbed many lower league fans up the wrong way but I've got a lot more respect for wealthy owners picking a team lower down the pyramid.

I like the way they've gone about their investment and am pleased it's being repaid on the pitch. Will be interesting to see how they fare in the Championship.
Agreed. I cannot understand those who are petty enough to upset by their rise and want them back in non-league. We moan often enough about bad owners (and we wrote the book on those!), and then two guys turn up who are patently brilliant owners - and people still moan!
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Agreed. I cannot understand those who are petty enough to upset by their rise and want them back in non-league. We moan often enough about bad owners (and we wrote the book on those!), and then two guys turn up who are patently brilliant owners - and people still moan!
I went to a decent number of league 2 games last year and most fans just wanted them promoted and out the league (along with Stockport tbf) due to their spending power making it impossible to compete with them.

I'm pretty sure it would have been the same in the conference and this year.

I think people are just bored of having it rammed down their throats about it being a fairytale when they are spending more than anyone else minus Birmingham this year.
 


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