[Albion] Brighton fans: just the same whiney b*tches as Chelsea, Arsenal, and Man Utd's fans.

[Justice]

Don’t, just don’t….he will take a photo of this and have it framed

Don’t, just don’t….he will take a photo of this and have it framed

Post of the f***ing year of course It’s getting framed

 

[Guinness Boy]

Losing is annoying but losing or drawing to breakaway goals that give the keeper little or no chance of saving every f***ing game is a problem that the manager is responsible for. How many breakaway goals have we conceded this season? Too f***ing many imo

FH will be here as long as TB has faith in him, I would sack him at season’s end if I was the owner, but I accept that he is much more sanguine than me

Ultimately this is the issue. We concede silly goals all the time. Doing the same thing over and expecting different results is the definition of madness.

We don’t have the players to play Hurzeler ball. Or we don’t have the coach for our players.

 

[ManOfSussex]

We once had to play the qualifying rounds of The FA Cup in the 1930s because the club secretary forgot to enter us. Look how far we've come now. There's no pleasing some people though.

 

[Flounce]

Ultimately this is the issue. We concede silly goals all the time. Doing the same thing over and expecting different results is the definition of madness.

We don’t have the players to play Hurzeler ball. Or we don’t have the coach for our players.

I am in the “manager is not up to the task” camp given what has happened since we lost in the cup. I have held off stating this opinion until today.

 

[Justice]

Ultimately this is the issue. We concede silly goals all the time. Doing the same thing over and expecting different results is the definition of madness.

We don’t have the players to play Hurzeler ball. Or we don’t have the coach for our players.

WTF is Hurzeler ball? Leaving huge gaps in midfield for opposing teams runners? He keeps saying we will learn & come back stronger next week, the f***ing liar

 

[A1X]

Our fans like to mock Chelsea's and Arsenal's, yet are just the same whiney bunch of b*tches, squealing like a stuck pig after every loss.

 

[A1X]

Does there come a point when we get to stop 'being grateful' and are allowed to expect improvement?

How much improvement can we reasonably expect, though? We’re now an established PL team and looking for another top half finish. Short of getting bought out by the Chinese government and turned into another zillionaire sportswashing franchise there’s not a whole lot more headroom we reasonably can improve into.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think this is becoming redundant when we've spent 250 million pounds on players this season. I, like many other fans recognise the significance of Hereford and these years but at some point we have to move on. It was 28 years ago, the same age as I am now. We are a world away from that team at Hereford. I don't remember it for obvious reasons, but I remember getting soaking wet at Withdean watching my heroes slogging victories week after week where a few weeks after my friends would have their school sports day.

This mentality, whilst should absolutely be remembered for what it is, and should be 100% reflected on at times, is absolutely far off on how we should be judging the club in 2025. The comparison is simply ridiculous.

It isn't a 'comparison'.
Of course our expectations should not be the average of the last 40 or 80 years (mid table tier 3).
We want to do better. Of course.
But there is some entitlement creeping in as noted by @GrizzlingGammon and @AmexRuislip and me and others.

In my job it is all about what didn't work and how can we make it better.
Well, we punters can't make anything better.
But we can shout 'we want baldy OUT, we want baldy OUT' at the next match.
If we want.

Despite my comment this evening that maybe the club should sack the manager, this is merely a thought.
It isn't a campaign. And I am not ready to join any such campaign.
But some posts, posters and threads on NSC are rabble rousing calls to Citizen Action.
(albeit in a nudge wink sort of style, which is as preposterous as it is hilarious.
Do you agree with me? What? You know, that... What? You know. About the manager. What?)

We want a fully verifiable, er plan, with visceral entertainment and no VAR.
When do we want it?
Now!

 

[Uh_huh_him]

take a good long look at the last 10 goals we have conceded.

The defending is comical.

Every other club in the land will be bitching and moaning about those goals

 

[Eeyore]

I think this is becoming redundant when we've spent 250 million pounds on players this season. I, like many other fans recognise the significance of Hereford and these years but at some point we have to move on. It was 28 years ago, the same age as I am now. We are a world away from that team at Hereford. I don't remember it for obvious reasons, but I remember getting soaking wet at Withdean watching my heroes slogging victories week after week where a few weeks after my friends would have their school sports day.

This mentality, whilst should absolutely be remembered for what it is, and should be 100% reflected on at times, is absolutely far off on how we should be judging the club in 2025. The comparison is simply ridiculous.

You have a point to a degree. Perhaps more than a degree.

But folk who see Albion in the context of history and are capable of shrugging shoulders at what some see as poor progress are much happier and less stressed about things. So I like being part of that group.

 

[AmexRuislip]

It isn't a 'comparison'.
Of course our expectations should not be the average of the last 40 or 80 years (mid table tier 3).
We want to do better. Of course.
But there is some entitlement creeping in as noted by @GrizzlingGammon and @AmexRuislip and me and others.

In my job it is all about what didn't work and how can we make it better.
Well, we punters can't make anything better.
But we can shout 'we want baldy OUT, we want baldy OUT' at the next match.
If we want.

Despite my comment this evening that maybe the club should sack the manager, this is merely a thought.
It isn't a campaign. And I am not ready to join any such campaign.
But some posts, posters and threads on NSC are rabble rousing calls to Citizen Action.
(albeit in a nudge wink sort of style, which is as preposterous as it is hilarious.
Do you agree with me? What? You know, that... What? You know. About the manager. What?)

We want a fully verifiable, er plan, with visceral entertainment and no VAR.
When do we want it?
Now!

That's cheered me up no end

It's certainly stopped me calling my on call acupuncturist, who charges me a phenomenal rate after hours

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

take a good long look at the last 10 goals we have conceded.

The defending is comical.

Every other club in the land will be bitching and moaning about those goals

Yeah... I am thinking that our defense is shit. Slow and Championshipesque.
We need big fast fuckers.
Remember when Pep started at Citeh? He binned the entire defense and....

Hang on. I have just had a feeling of deja vu all over again.
Something something Zutons.
Spooky.

 

[boik]

I think this is becoming redundant when we've spent 250 million pounds on players this season. I, like many other fans recognise the significance of Hereford and these years but at some point we have to move on. It was 28 years ago, the same age as I am now. We are a world away from that team at Hereford. I don't remember it for obvious reasons, but I remember getting soaking wet at Withdean watching my heroes slogging victories week after week where a few weeks after my friends would have their school sports day.

This mentality, whilst should absolutely be remembered for what it is, and should be 100% reflected on at times, is absolutely far off on how we should be judging the club in 2025. The comparison is simply ridiculous.

250 million? Jesus, that inflation is rampant.

 

[A1X]

Yeah... I am thinking that our defense is shit. Slow and Championshipesque.
We need big fast fuckers.
Remember when Pep started at Citeh? He binned the entire defense and....

Hang on. I have just had a feeling of deja vu all over again.
Something something Zutons.
Spooky.

 

[Sussexscots]

How much improvement can we reasonably expect, though? We’re now an established PL team and looking for another top half finish. Short of getting bought out by the Chinese government and turned into another zillionaire sportswashing franchise there’s not a whole lot more headroom we reasonably can improve into.

Interesting point.

I'd say we were seeing season on season incremental improvement under Potter. That improvement and, (pro tanto) expectation rose under RDZ.

My view (rightly or wrongly) is that TB would wish to see that incremental improvement also.

I see no progress under Hurzeler. No discernable style or pattern of play. No tactical flexibility. Little in game management.

Agree with that. Disagree with that. Up to the individual. Ultimately, TB will decide if what's been served up this season is progressing the club in the direction he considers acceptable and determine the fate of FH as manager.

Personally, however, I don't subscribe to the view that anyone questioning the standard of football being served up under Hurzeler; or suggesting dissatisfaction with same is a whiney entitled b*tch.

We are not the club we were 25 years ago. People are paying serious money for match tickets and It's perfectly possible to remember where we've come from but expect better from where we are.

 

[essbee1]

Our fans like to mock Chelsea's and Arsenal's, yet are just the same whiney bunch of b*tches, squealing like a stuck pig after every loss.

Not the same.

 

[Mo Gosfield]

For the benefit of the armchair experts who are out in force tonight calling it overeaction, let me spell out what our performance today was really like.
I didn't think that our level could drop anymore from the previous four performances. Sadly, it did. In fact, it is now getting worse, game by game. It was a performance of collective errors from start to finish. The players seemed content to play at a tempo that offered little or no threat. Despite what the manager said post match about us being good first half, we were bloody awful. Fans were saying at HT that surely this couldn't get any worse. Sadly, it did. We got away with that HT scoreline. It was laughable that we were even level. Did we learn from it. No. We just kicked off again in the same manner, giving the ball away, right, left and centre and paid the price.
The game was crying out for change. There was no energy, no direction. Where was Mitoma? The fans could see it coming and it did. Too late. Taking off our only striker and dominant midfielder defied explanation and the fans turned ugly.
Pedro was a selfish and languid disgrace for 60 min before deciding to make our task even more difficult. Dunk struggled painfully again. Defensively, we were all over the shop. Brentford played in second gear and waited for the gaps to appear, which we were only too happy to provide. This was so far below the levels of a few games ago that you begin to wonder quite what is going on. The players actually appear to have given up.
TB heard and felt the frustration and anger first hand. It was in his ear. Although those berating him deserve condemnation. It was a mismanaged shambles, that gifted Brentford their first home win since December. For many still giving the manager leeway before today, this was a turning point. It felt like a rudderless ship, drifting slowly towards the rocks and its difficult to see anything other than a limp slide now into the bottom half.

 

[GrizzlingGammon]

Not the same.

Why?

 

[LamieRobertson]

250 million? Jesus, that inflation is rampant.

It’ll be 350m by next week

 

[jcdenton08]

I personally can’t believe that Uncle Tony sanctioned a spend of over a billion pounds last summer