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[Albion] Chelsea and Hove Albion at it again



Nobby Cybergoat

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Jul 19, 2021
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£70m+ - it depends how badly they want him and if the player forces the move (which I feel is unlikely based on what we have seen of his personality, but you never know). One thing I am confident of is that we will receive the best possible price should they come forward.
If it were any other club sniffing around, i'd say £70m and the resulting loss of PSR wiggle room, would be enough to scare off a potential buyer.

But this is the result of the PL allowing Chelsea to sell hotels etc to themselves. It means they can continue to plunder mid ranking sides without having to consider the rules which bind the rest of us
 




GJN1

Well-known member
Nov 4, 2014
1,883
Brighton
A decade ago I started a rumour about a player Albion were interested in to test things out on social media. Within four days it hit main outlets and was only laid to rest when Naylor said no. It's that easy.
We should do this again. It'll be NSC's little secret. Who should we send and where? I'm saying JPVH to Man Utd.
 


jcdenton08

Joel Veltman Fan Club
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
17,021
If it were any other club sniffing around, i'd say £70m and the resulting loss of PSR wiggle room, would be enough to scare off a potential buyer.

But this is the result of the PL allowing Chelsea to sell hotels etc to themselves. It means they can continue to plunder mid ranking sides without having to consider the rules which bind the rest of us
Well the thing is with us, is buying clubs are fully aware that we have no financial need to sell, which puts us in a strong negotiating position. My logic arriving at £70m+ is based on the Chelsea Tax, but also the fact that we paid £40m for a Championship player (potentially with a sell-on percentage going to Leeds).

The gulf in standard between the two leagues, as we’ve consistently seen, is enormous. Therefore to prove himself in his first season shows he can step up a level quickly. Chelsea are a step above us, and not as large as between the Championship and the PL, so his value will be reflected in that.

Championship to mid table PL - £40m
Mid table PL to Champions League and top 4 - £70m

But as I say, any player is only worth what another team is willing to pay, so putting a value on a player is very tricky.
 


Milano

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Aug 15, 2012
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Sussex but not by the sea
He has been here less than a year. If we want to continue in an endless 'transition' then sell him to Chelsea for £70m. If we want this season to actually matter when it comes to next season then do NOT sell him, unless it's for Caicedo level money. Same for Baleba.
We need to be seen as a stepping stone and willing to move players on for their benefit. However it has to be on our terms, which is NOT after less than 12 months of being here.
I'd be pretty depressed if the club were to sanction this.
 








Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
851
If it were any other club sniffing around, i'd say £70m and the resulting loss of PSR wiggle room, would be enough to scare off a potential buyer.

But this is the result of the PL allowing Chelsea to sell hotels etc to themselves. It means they can continue to plunder mid ranking sides without having to consider the rules which bind the rest of us
It's probably worth noting that the Premier League haven't actually approved this transaction to be able to offset their losses. UEFA certainly haven't and are set to impose sanctions, which would probably preclude any 50m+ signings this summer.
 






GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
51,205
Gloucester
What the EPL/UEFA need to do as a matter of urgency is to void revenue from this closed shop club world cup from counting towards PSR. Of course the EPL won't.
Would be good, but ultimately I think they probably can't, even if they tried.
 


tstanbur

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Sep 16, 2011
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He has been here less than a year. If we want to continue in an endless 'transition' then sell him to Chelsea for £70m. If we want this season to actually matter when it comes to next season then do NOT sell him, unless it's for Caicedo level money. Same for Baleba.
We need to be seen as a stepping stone and willing to move players on for their benefit. However it has to be on our terms, which is NOT after less than 12 months of being here.
I'd be pretty depressed if the club were to sanction this.
If he wants to go then what are the club supposed to do?

As always, any sales of our best players are down to the player saying they want out.

The club won't want to (or need to) sell him or Baleba or anyone.
 


hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
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Chandlers Ford
We should do this again. It'll be NSC's little secret. Who should we send and where? I'm saying JPVH to Man Utd.
So, you start this rumour - spread it liberally around social media, etc.

The click-bait transfer sites pick it up and run with it. Then TalkSport. Then the Daily Mail.

Then the BBC gossip page reports the Daily mail story.

Then people go all 'the BBC are reporting that JPVH is off to United'.

JPVH's agent starts to think there must be some fire where there's smoke so makes a call to sound out United. Jan Paul himself has seen the stories, and started daydreaming about which colour Lambourghini to buy with his signing on fee. United take the agent's call, and now in the knowledge the player might be keen, sound out the club about a potential fee.

The Albion play down the stories, but the player's head is turned now, and faced with an unhappy player moping about pre-season, they reluctantly allow talks to start.

Van Hecke is basically SOLD now.

And it is ALL YOUR FAULT. f***ing WELL done. I hope you're proud of yourself.
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
17,519
Sell them Rutter. As long as we keep Georginio, we'll be alright.
It's not as simple as that, because where one goes the other one follows. Which means they would have to buy Georginio AND Rutter.

Double bubble, then! 💰
 












Don Tmatter

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Jul 7, 2003
5,121
dont matter
What do you think? he’s our only player who can hold the ball up properly. Buonanotte is probably ahead of Enciso an allrounder whilst Enciso provides flair moments.
I think Buonanotte would have matched his goals/assists if he’d had the same amount of minutes on the pitch for us.
 






Don Tmatter

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
5,121
dont matter
That is something we will never know.
Yes and only my opinion, I’m still mystified why we bought O’Riley if Buonanotte is in FH’s/clubs longer term plans, Rutter can play in more positions than FB but O’Riley I’m yet to see what he offers over FB or even Enciso for that matter
 




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