jonny.rainbow
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- Oct 29, 2005
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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President
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Fignon's Ponytail
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From CNN:
The European Union is “ready to negotiate” with the United States and has offered to scrap tariffs on industrial goods, Ursula Von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, said Monday.
"We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods, as we have successfully done with many other trading partners, because Europe is always ready for a good deal,” she said.
Asked when the EU tabled the zero-tariff offer, von der Leyen said the offer was made “long before” Trump’s latest tariff announcement and “repeatedly, for example, in the automotive sector.” She stressed that the EU has long gone “zero for zero with other countries that also have a strong automotive sector.”
The European Union is “ready to negotiate” with the United States and has offered to scrap tariffs on industrial goods, Ursula Von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, said Monday.
"We have offered zero-for-zero tariffs for industrial goods, as we have successfully done with many other trading partners, because Europe is always ready for a good deal,” she said.
Asked when the EU tabled the zero-tariff offer, von der Leyen said the offer was made “long before” Trump’s latest tariff announcement and “repeatedly, for example, in the automotive sector.” She stressed that the EU has long gone “zero for zero with other countries that also have a strong automotive sector.”
fly high
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But he doesn't want that, he wants every country to beg, grovel & then he will tell them to f*** off.
fly high
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Sorry I really don't think certain members of the EU will see that. We left therefore we must be punished even if we rejoin. Conditions imposed would be horrendous.
He also wants deregulation of social media so that all protections can be removed, regulation on food safety binned as well as tax cuts for Amazon and the like.
- Jan 25, 2025
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It is not for the likes of you and I to understand. We’re just not on Trump’s intellectual plane.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
They really won't. We won't have the same concessions as before but there won't be any imposed conditions.
- Jul 10, 2003
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The EU will do what they have always done, and that is whatever is best for the EU economically, politically and security-wise. That has always been with the UK as a major player in the EU and they've always made it very clear that they didn't want us to leave.
The big difference being that they would take a sensible mature position on it and unlike so many who got us into this complete clusterf***, they wouldn't be so petty as to cut off their nose to spite their face
- Jan 25, 2025
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I read the Project 2025 chapter on trade, written by Navarro, last week*. It clearly advocates a position that increasing US tariffs to match foreign tariffs would decrease trade deficits more than if those countries reduced tariffs to the US rate.
It also says the US should pursue trade deals with “mutual recognition” of standards. Meaning, if US regulators decide it’s fine for their agriculture to be marinaded in strychnine, regulators in other countries are meant to be fine with that.
* It was still more enjoyable than the Palace game
That's what I, as a remainer, used to think. There will be some member states who may now feel like this,
but I don't think France and, especially, Germany will see it that way.
And he who pays the piper (the EU central coffers) calls the tune.
That said, I can't see Starmer mooting 'rejoin' yet. There would be media carnage.
"The Great EU Betrayal"; "Labour hands over sovereignty" etc.
But if there is a clear 'click' in the mechanism, and it suddenly becomes clear to everyone that being outside the EU
is like being found naked on stage at Wembley, with half your rectum hanging out of your anus,
Starmer may make a move.
And, the scenes that will follow will be gory to behold
- Jan 25, 2025
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Also, Trump has said that countries will have to “pay a lot of money every year” to get the tariffs removed. Given what we’ve seen of his idea of a fair deal in Ukraine, a crazy thought that entered my head is that he might demand “repayment” of all annual US trade deficit by those countries. It’s an insane idea, but Trump is insane and it would fit with his idiotic rhetoric about the US being screwed over.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Trump can’t be trusted so simplest solution is to mirror exactly what he does in terms of tariffs. It’ll drive him nuts and weakens his position.
I'm sure the US can find mutual recognition of food hygiene standards with....errr, Russia for example.
Miami Seagull
Grandad
The only way through this is without giving the US what they want is if the EU, UK and as much of the rest of the world, probably except China and Russia and their allies, agree to a tariff free zone. It would cut the US out and be the biggest free trade zone ever. Then match the US tariffs. The US would then be instantly uncompetitive. The US has to fail with this.
How far back could he go, 1949 maybe? "That's really beautiful repayment..."
- Jan 25, 2025
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It’s lose-lose either way. Personally, I like the “f*** you too” option but that’s easy for me to say.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
It will be lose-lose regardless of what we do. If we give in then he’ll f**k us over again and again, so imho we effectively tell him to go forth by mirroring his every move. He needs something to react against so mirroring takes that option away.