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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .






Zeberdi

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Jeez. Get over yourself
you were the one that started this up again today after days of it not being an issue.

As for telling a Jewish person ‘to get over yourself’ when they are trying to explain the significance of Nazi Germany to the Jewish
experience of persecution under that regime from the moment Hitler took power (that culminated in the Shoah) and why EQUATING (not just comparing) it with the experience of living under Trump in America is an offence …

NICE and from someone who clearly has no direct experience of either 👍

(If you reference this again in the future, and again misrepresent my PoV - Expect a response)
 


birthofanorange

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you were the one that started this up again today after days of it not being an issue.

As for telling a Jewish person ‘to get over yourself’ when they are trying to explain the significance of Nazi Germany to the Jewish
experience of persecution under that regime from the moment Hitler took power (that culminated in the Shoah) and why EQUATING (not just comparing) it with the experience of living under Trump in America is an offence -

NICE and from someone who clearly has no direct experience of either 👍
Shh....enough already. :cool:
 


SweatyMexican

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The sycophants in his administration around him in those meetings are embarrassing. In a contest to make jokey one liners about serious issues. Everyone obsessed with disparaging Obama/Biden, relentless propaganda, lying to talk down some successful years. All part of the fascist project to end a democracy.

They haven’t gotten over the fact a black guy was in the white house have they?
 


Han Solo

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Why are you again getting into a discussion which you have Specifically be banned from talking about?
I'm talking about US president Donald Trump and the issues around him and the totalitarian, miserable society he and his colleagues are creating and have received no signals that I will be banned for discussig this topic. The entire world is talking about Donald Trump and unless someone is a massive fan of him, nothing I say is all that controversial.

That you want to take the conversation about Trump and turn it into something entirely different that I'm indeed not even allowed (or willing) to comment on... you do that because you've missed the entire point (= that the US and its leadership is resembling a number of previous fascist regimes). In your head, we're doing some sort of internal ranking list over the best and worst fascists out there. In reality most people in this thread are pretty much just saying "we don't like fascists and this Trump guy has a lot fascist tendencies". Not sure why you want to fight these perspectives with fire and sword.
 




The Clamp

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West is BEST
you were the one that started this up again today after days of it not being an issue.

As for telling a Jewish person ‘to get over yourself’ when they are trying to explain the significance of Nazi Germany to the Jewish
experience of persecution under that regime from the moment Hitler took power (that culminated in the Shoah) and why EQUATING (not just comparing) it with the experience of living under Trump in America is an offence -

NICE and from someone who clearly has no direct experience of either 👍
You make way too many assumptions and seem to accuse anyone with an opinion that differs to yours of being an antisemite.

Well, not even different. I am certain we share the same views on the Holocaust.

If you’re going to go down the road of accusing me of being antisemitic then I rally am done with this conversation.

And this time … I mean it 🤣

Genuinely. No harm intended. Have a good match day.
 




Zeberdi

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You make way too many assumptions and seem to accuse anyone with an opinion that differs to yours of being an antisemite.
Outrageous comment.

Hans Solo posted antisemitic remarks on this forum which saw him banned - moderator decision not mine - until now for me it’s not been an issue again but it is when he starts talking about the Holocaust again and you start involving me in that. Maybe you should read the posting history:

It not me that got him banned.

I certainly DID NOT accuse you of antisemitism but you were agreeing with HS that not only Americans but me also had a “simplified idea of the Holocaust” and Nazi Germany - I don’t think you realise what an insult that is to the descendant of victims of the Nazi Regime.
Well, not even different. I am certain we share the same views on the Holocaust.
We do I am sure but I wasn’t just referring to the Shoah in my initial critical response - the Final Solution was just the culmination of an ideology and policies about Jews that was going on for years before they started gassing them. Hence - One can simply not make casual comparisons to Nazi Germany as if that persecution was not central to Nazi ideology.
If you’re going to go down the road of accusing me of being antisemitic then I rally am done with this conversation.
Now you are weaponising antisemitism to throw that back at me too?? Knowing I’m Jewish! In a conversation about Nazi Germany?

Do you think before you post?
 








Han Solo

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Does anyone have any pills for 'Last Word Syndrome', as it seems a few are suffering from it at the moment? :rolleyes:
So much of this could be avoided if there was a "facepalm"-reaction button
 




The Clamp

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West is BEST


birthofanorange

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Zeberdi

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No need to really argue with each other on this thread, tbh, as we're (virtually) all in agreement that the Orange turd is a global liability and needs to be removed, one way or another.
No there isn’t but if people make false accusations against me of claiming ‘antisemitism’ as a means of shutting down those that “disagree with anything I say” that is offensive - because it is designed to hurt and done in the full knowledge that I am Jewish - it’s an argument that has been lodged against Jews a lot lately vis a vis criticism of Israel but I am not one those people.

However, I do feel ’Antisemitism‘ is a serious issue and like the “Nazi Regime” should not be thrown around as tropes to win the internet or weaponised by Non-Jews or Jews alike. (That isn’t necessarily directed at anyone personally btw)

As For Trump and his minions, I agree wholeheartedly with most others on this forum who recognise elements of Trump’s behaviour as dictatorial and has the seeds of fascism. I’ve been highlighting that on this thread since he was first elected and have no qualms continuing to say so myself or read others saying the same thing.
 




Albion my Albion

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So much of this could be avoided if there was a "facepalm"-reaction button

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birthofanorange

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No there isn’t but if people make false accusations against me of claiming ‘antisemitism’ as a means of shutting down those that “disagree with anything I say” that is offensive - because it is designed to hurt and done in the full knowledge that I am Jewish - it’s an argument that has been lodged against Jews a lot lately vis a vis criticism of Israel but I am not one those people.

However, I do feel ’Antisemitism‘ is a serious issue and like the “Nazi Regime” should not be thrown around as tropes to win the internet or weaponised by Non-Jews or Jews alike. (That isn’t necessarily directed at anyone personally btw)

As For Trump and his minions, I agree wholeheartedly with most others on this forum who recognise elements of Trump’s behaviour as dictatorial and has the seeds of fascism. I’ve been highlighting that on this thread since he was first elected and have no qualms continuing to say so myself or read others saying the same thing.
#sigh
 


Zeberdi

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Sigh all you like but this is a serious issue for me and millions around the world who come across Holocaust denial/trivialisation/antisemitism on a daily basis on social media.

I don’t expect you to be interested in that or participate in any discussion about it but please show some me respect and stop playing for likes and inflaming an already sensitive topic..
 


birthofanorange

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Sigh all you like but this is a serious issue for me and millions around the world who come across Holocaust denial/trivialisation/antisemitism on a daily basis on social media.

I don’t expect you to be interested in that or participate in any discussion about it but please show some me respect and stop
playing for likes.
How about simply stop? You are showing no respect to this thread - and you're certainly not alone, so I'm not singling you out.
As for 'playing for likes'? Are you 12?
 






The Antikythera Mechanism

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Sigh all you like but this is a serious issue for me and millions around the world who come across Holocaust denial/trivialisation/antisemitism on a daily basis on social media.

I don’t expect you to be interested in that or participate in any discussion about it but please show some me respect and stop
playing for likes.
Please, please give it a rest.
 


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