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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 175 42.3%
  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 216 52.2%
  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%

  • Total voters
    414
  • Poll closed .


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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I’m quite happy labelling any racist, fascist and white supremacist as ignorant and not losing a moment’s sleep over doing so.
Not necessarily ignorant.
Let's not forget "calculating psychopath without empathy or any concern for anything other than whatever serves their purpose".
No genuine allegiances or beliefs.
Can be simplified: psychopath.
 






Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
9,079
Vilamoura, Portugal
I have posted this before....

Trump announces something mad.
His pals do the opposite of the market reaction.
Trump changes his mind
His pals cash in.

Sunak made a fortune betting against the pound during the fallout from the sub-prime disaster (that was skillfully mitigated against by Brown, while being blamed on Brown by the lickspittle jackass element among the Tories - "if only Brown hadn't sold off all our gold" we would have been uniquely immune to the crash. Sure we would).

In the US, some of Trumps insiders will have just got considerably richer,
while Trump will blame any collateral damage on Sleepy Joe, Crooked Hillary, 'Chayna', the EU and Zelensky.

Ands after that? Rinse and repeat.
Indeed
 


SouthSaxon

Stand or fall
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Jan 25, 2025
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Ignorance is the lack of knowledge or information. I highlighted his background to demonstrate that he is lacking in neither when it comes to authoritarianism and white supremacist ideology.
White supremacy is the belief that people with white skin are superior to all others.

They are not, which means it’s an ignorant ideology.

Elon Musk appears to believe this. That makes him ignorant.

I’m not really sure why we’re having this exchange. I do know the meanings of the words I use.
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
8,238
White supremacy is the belief that people with white skin are superior to all others.

They are not, which means it’s an ignorant ideology.

Elon Musk appears to believe this. That makes him ignorant.

I’m not really sure why we’re having this exchange. I do know the meanings of the words I use.
At least you didn’t get the trolling laughing emoji this time 😉

I think maybe there‘s an ambiguity around the word ‘ignorant’ - strictly speaking ‘ignorant’ or ‘ignorance’ is the lack of facts (as you say) as opposed to it being incorrectly used at times as an pejorative adjective describing a person’s attitude, their lack of metal acuity or a particular POV.

Anyone espousing racist ideology of doesn’t care that the ideology is based on the false premise that people of certain colour or race are inferior. So in that sense the ideology itself is an ignorant POV.
 






Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
9,079
Vilamoura, Portugal
At least you didn’t get the trolling laughing emoji this time 😉

I think maybe there‘s an ambiguity around the word ‘ignorant’ - strictly speaking ‘ignorant’ or ‘ignorance’ is the lack of facts (as you say) as opposed to it being incorrectly used at times as an pejorative adjective describing a person’s attitude, their lack of metal acuity or a particular POV.

Anyone espousing racist ideology of doesn’t care that the ideology is based on the false premise that people of certain colour or race are inferior. So in that sense the ideology itself is an ignorant POV.
You're at it again.
 


Sirnormangall

Well-known member
Sep 21, 2017
3,481
US President Donald Trump is in "excellent cognitive and physical health", says his White House physician.

In the first annual physical of his second presidential term at a Washington DC-area hospital, Trump was also found to have "scaring on the right ear from a gunshot wound", after an assassination attempt last July.

"President Trump remains in excellent health, exhibiting robust cardiac, pulmonary, neurological, and general physical function," his doctor, Captain Sean Barbabella, said in a memo.

Reassuring news from the Beeb.
🤦‍♂️ ……which means the markets will be down tomorrow in readiness of another fun week of Trump bollx.
Or maybe it’s fake news. Perhaps his physician has found something terminal and is keeping it quiet so that he / she can buy the market before making it public
 




Brian Munich

teH lulZ
Jul 7, 2008
843
I’d have thought the tech stocks would be significantly boosted tomorrow with Friday’s latest u-turn announcement of electronics exemptions.

Although, I see that they’re now saying that these types of products will be subject to a ‘special’ type of tariff to be implemented in a very vague sounding month or two.
 


Bodian

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May 3, 2012
16,307
Cumbria
I’d have thought the tech stocks would be significantly boosted tomorrow with Friday’s latest u-turn announcement of electronics exemptions.

Although, I see that they’re now saying that these types of products will be subject to a ‘special’ type of tariff to be implemented in a very vague sounding month or two.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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I’d have thought the tech stocks would be significantly boosted tomorrow with Friday’s latest u-turn announcement of electronics exemptions.

Although, I see that they’re now saying that these types of products will be subject to a ‘special’ type of tariff to be implemented in a very vague sounding month or two.

They might do for one week, but people be wary of rushing to invest in a market subject to a madman unintentionally devaluing the USD and also unintentionally increasing the real world cost of servicing their $37t federal debt.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ch...DyQ7-bR1xZKOZVExx-BEocdfFGYxpP02h3vGiOSOirLeb
 




Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
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Oct 20, 2022
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You're at it again.
I was agreeing with you ffs :facepalm:

Meanwhile Trump apparently reversing again and making it up as he goes along - no exceptions to tariffs on Chinese electronics:



“NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming Tax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
 
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Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,514
US President Donald Trump is in "excellent cognitive and physical health", says his White House physician.

In the first annual physical of his second presidential term at a Washington DC-area hospital, Trump was also found to have "scaring on the right ear from a gunshot wound", after an assassination attempt last July.

"President Trump remains in excellent health, exhibiting robust cardiac, pulmonary, neurological, and general physical function," his doctor, Captain Sean Barbabella, said in a memo.

Reassuring news from the Beeb.
I'm calling BS! Looking at the cognitive test, I can't remember 5 words 15 mins later (trial 3 is what counts if anyone is interested) & that's just one part. I would class my memory as a bit shit and I maybe overselling my intelligence here, but I don't change my mind about important stuff the next day & then change it again the day after etc....
Perhaps a better test of his cognition would be the DSM 5 for narcissistic personality disorder. I'm not belittling anyone that has the diagnoses by the way. Just probably better if they weren't the POTUS.
 


Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
9,079
Vilamoura, Portugal
I was agreeing with you ffs :facepalm:

Meanwhile Trump apparently reversing again and making it up as he goes along - no exceptions to tariffs on Chinese electronics:



“NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming Tax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
Ah, sorry but "At least you didn’t get the trolling laughing emoji this time 😉" suggested otherwise😁
 




Seagull58

In the Algarve
Jan 31, 2012
9,079
Vilamoura, Portugal
I was agreeing with you ffs :facepalm:

Meanwhile Trump apparently reversing again and making it up as he goes along - no exceptions to tariffs on Chinese electronics:



“NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming T subject to the originalax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
What he has said is that they will still be subject to the original 20% tariff but not to the additional 125% tariff, so they are now an "exception" even though he is trying to deny it.
 


Eric the meek

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Aug 24, 2020
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I'm calling BS! Looking at the cognitive test, I can't remember 5 words 15 mins later (trial 3 is what counts if anyone is interested) & that's just one part. I would class my memory as a bit shit and I maybe overselling my intelligence here, but I don't change my mind about important stuff the next day & then change it again the day after etc....
Perhaps a better test of his cognition would be the DSM 5 for narcissistic personality disorder. I'm not belittling anyone that has the diagnoses by the way. Just probably better if they weren't the POTUS.
Odd that all those findings are published now, when Trump has chosen not to disclose his medical history for the past 15 years.
 


Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,514
Odd that all those findings are published now, when Trump has chosen not to disclose his medical history for the past 15 years.
I'm sure there was one when he was POTUS before, That one basically said he was the fittest person the Dr had ever seen. Fitter than fit, a modern miracle of his age and lifestyle. No one is fitter than Trump.
 


Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
8,238
I'm sure there was one when he was POTUS before, That one basically said he was the fittest person the Dr had ever seen. Fitter than fit, a modern miracle of his age and lifestyle. No one is fitter than Trump.

Yes because Trump dictated that letter himself to the doctor testifying to his health and fitness to run for the Presidency! 😂

 
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Cotton Socks

Skint Supporter
Feb 20, 2017
2,514
I was agreeing with you ffs :facepalm:

Meanwhile Trump apparently reversing again and making it up as he goes along - no exceptions to tariffs on Chinese electronics:



“NOBODY is getting “off the hook” for the unfair Trade Balances, and Non Monetary Tariff Barriers, that other Countries have used against us, especially not China which, by far, treats us the worst! There was no Tariff “exception” announced on Friday. These products are subject to the existing 20% Fentanyl Tariffs, and they are just moving to a different Tariff “bucket.” The Fake News knows this, but refuses to report it. We are taking a look at Semiconductors and the WHOLE ELECTRONICS SUPPLY CHAIN in the upcoming National Security Tariff Investigations. What has been exposed is that we need to make products in the United States, and that we will not be held hostage by other Countries, especially hostile trading Nations like China, which will do everything within its power to disrespect the American People. We also cannot let them continue to abuse us on Trade, like they have for decades, THOSE DAYS ARE OVER! The Golden Age of America, which includes the upcoming Tax and Regulation Cuts, a substantial amount of which was just approved by the House and Senate, will mean more and better paying Jobs, making products in our Nation, and treating other Countries, in particular China, the same way they have treated us. The bottom line is that our Country will be bigger, better, and stronger than ever before. We will, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!”
This Fentanyl tariff that he keeps wittering on about, is one of the things that does my head in the most! Fentanyl is a drug developed and marketed by an American pharma company. The US allow companies to push their products on TV ads, in the same way they were encouraging men to get a prescription for their wives for Prozac if they had a bit of PMT.

Now I'm not pretending that Dr's in the UK aren't occasionally bias in the brand of medication they prescribe. I suddenly had a prescription that specified GSK only, when I asked 'why' I was told that they were the cheapest. That wasn't true as I looked at the BNF price guide. I am quite tragic like that! :lolol:

He's just pissing around with the stock market again with these 'tweets'. Actually why doesn't he use X as his main platform for spouting bollocks anymore?

My word of today for him is w**ker, I'm going to have to recycle derogatory terms for him as they're aren't enough words. 🤬
 


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