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[Albion] Napoli interested in Billy Gilmour **Sold 30/08/24**







Dave the OAP

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Jul 5, 2003
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at home
Theyre using the chalk to write messages to all the other birds. Like a primitive facebook party invite. It'll be like "The Birds" at your place soon!!
Eeeeeeeek.
 






SAC

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May 21, 2014
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For me he is a steal if he goes for anything less than £30m

A brilliant passer of the ball and a great engine in our midfield. My current favourite player and losing him isn't worth thinking about
£30 million would be including a Chelsea tax. In real terms he is probably worth less than half of that.

If he's on low wages (presumably he is) and doesn't want to leave, I don't see any advantages in selling him unless the Gaffa doesn't think he will fit his style of play.
 




ElectricNaz

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Jan 23, 2013
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Hampshire
Just seen Liverpool want £12m for some nothing called Bobby Clark



6 games of football as an adult in his life.

How on earth is wee Billy the same price? Football is weird. The money is astonishing

Bobby Clark will end up at tranmere in 2 seasons and they'll be laughing about how they got the same as we got for a genuinely class midfielder
 


BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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For me he is a steal if he goes for anything less than £30m

A brilliant passer of the ball and a great engine in our midfield. My current favourite player and losing him isn't worth thinking about
This!!!

We are not really expecting him to go for less are we?

(I tried to go back through the thread but it seems to have been taken over by bird fanciers)
 






Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Brighton
No involvement in the friendly looks like he is off, probably serious haggling over the fee. Think 15m would clinch it.
Napoli have really tied themselves up in knots this window.

Desperate for the likes of Lukaku and Gilmour to join their club but seemingly unwilling to pay a fair price.

At the same time, holding played like Osimhen to ransom and unwilling to let the players surplus to requirements go for reasonable fees.

@Han Solo pointed out their basket case transfers strategy which is playing out as predicted. But, I suspect they’ll get their house in order by the end of the window and Billy will be first on the team sheet in Naples in a system that actually suits him.
 




Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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Just seen Liverpool want £12m for some nothing called Bobby Clark



6 games of football as an adult in his life.

How on earth is wee Billy the same price? Football is weird. The money is astonishing

Bobby Clark will end up at tranmere in 2 seasons and they'll be laughing about how they got the same as we got for a genuinely class midfielder
The only ones at Brighton & Hove Albion who have any intention to sell him for £12m are the people of NSC who thinks he's "too small" for the football they want Hurzeler to want to play.

But the whole idea that he'd get sold for £12m is based on a British football fantasy where you win more games if you have more tall players. It has nothing to do with Hurzelers actual tactics.
 




phoenix

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May 18, 2009
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The only ones at Brighton & Hove Albion who have any intention to sell him for £12m are the people of NSC who thinks he's "too small" for the football they want Hurzeler to want to play.

But the whole idea that he'd get sold for £12m is based on a British football fantasy where you win more games if you have more tall players. It has nothing to do with Hurzelers actual tactics.
I really like Billy but he is lightweight and that's not his fault. All the workout aren't going to make him muscleman. If he had the right players around him he would probably be ok. There is something in all this chat, but no way would or should he be released on the cheap unless of course it is actually his wish. 18 mil sounds a fair price imho.
 


Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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I really like Billy but he is lightweight and that's not his fault. All the workout aren't going to make him muscleman. If he had the right players around him he would probably be ok. There is something in all this chat, but no way would or should he be released on the cheap unless of course it is actually his wish. 18 mil sounds a fair price imho.
Yeah he is lightweight but I think this is much more of a problem for the demography here than it is for a modern football coach, modern football team or modern football player. Many of the best players in the world, especially central midfielders, are physically similar to Billy. The 1980s ended.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Yeah he is lightweight but I think this is much more of a problem for the demography here than it is for a modern football coach, modern football team or modern football player. Many of the best players in the world, especially central midfielders, are physically similar to Billy. The 1980s ended.
It seems that Hürzeler essentially plays two sorts of midfielders:

1. Deep lying playmakers who can step into a back 3 or 5 with attributes similar to a stereotype centre back.

2. Box to box midfielders who can regularly score and assist.

You purposely frame the ‘NSC blob’ as only caring about point 1. whilst ignoring the fact that Billy can’t hit a barn door with a banjo, nor can he provide the sort of assist numbers that our new manager will insist on from his midfielders.

For what it’s worth, I think he’ll be a huge success at Napoli because a manager wants him to perform a role that does not require the above midfielder attributes, points 1. & 2.
 




Han Solo

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May 25, 2024
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It seems that Hürzeler essentially plays two sorts of midfielders:

1. Deep lying playmakers who can step into a back 3 or 5 with attributes similar to a stereotype centre back.

2. Box to box midfielders who can regularly score and assist.

You purposely frame the ‘NSC blob’ as only caring about point 1. whilst ignoring the fact that Billy can’t hit a barn door with a banjo, nor can he provide the sort of assist numbers that our new manager will insist on from his midfielders.

For what it’s worth, I think he’ll be a huge success at Napoli because a manager wants him to perform a role that does not require the above midfielder attributes, points 1. & 2.
Based on what? He had an xG of less than 1 last season - not like he's getting a bunch of goal scoring opportunities. Neither did he get a lot of assist opportunities as someone with a build up starting position 10 meters from the centre backs. If we find Billy in the role Ayari had yesterday, I think we'll see plenty of assists. And goals.
 


Hugo Rune

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Feb 23, 2012
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Based on what?
The eye test with his shooting. He just doesn’t seem to have the knack.

He has consistently been asked to stay back by managers in his career I’ll admit. But I just can’t see him making effective runs into the box, shooting, and scoring. Maybe you are right and all he needs is a chance but it’s a gamble.

That said, his EPL2 career stats make interesting reading. Especially this game……


 












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