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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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GoldstoneVintage
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Any news from the Ukrainians yet re: call with Trump?
- Jan 25, 2025
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Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
www.theguardian.com
Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
"Zelenskyy says that Trump shared details of his yesterday’s conversation with Russian president Vladimir Putin, and in response confirmed Ukraine’s readiness to “implement” a limited energy, civilian infrastructure ceasefire."
So Zelenskyy wants to add civilian infrastructure to the ceasefire. Putin is not going to be happy with that. If he can't continue killing civilians, what can he do?
- Nov 11, 2009
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He'll do what he did when he bombed the Mariupol maternity hospital or numerous schools..... he'll just falsely claim they were being used by Ukrainian Nazis and are therefore legitimate.
And claim the same for the energy infrastructure he targets. Or claim that Russia destroyed its own drones that were on route, so it wasn't them.
GoldstoneVintage
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Thanks for posting.Zelenskyy says Ukraine ready to implement limited energy and infrastructure ceasefire after ‘positive’ and ‘frank’ Trump call – live
Zelenskyy said he accepted US proposal of unconditional ceasefire on frontline in ‘substantive’ conversation with Trump
What a f*king bizarre world where Zelensky has to constantly praise the orange cretin even while he traitorously collaborates with Putin in Ukraine's downfall.
Think Zelensky is playing a blinder. He is showing what runts the other 2 are.
- Aug 24, 2020
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Let's make a new deal. How about the US take over and manage Ukraine's nuclear power plants?
The art of the deal. Park the first deal. Offer a new one. Two for the price of one. Buy one, get one free.
Take a look at Sky's news digest. The meat is in:
'Peace, power plants and POWs: Washington's take on Trump-Zelenskyy call - in full'
'Could US nuclear power takeover replace the minerals deal?'
news.sky.com
The art of the deal. Park the first deal. Offer a new one. Two for the price of one. Buy one, get one free.
Take a look at Sky's news digest. The meat is in:
'Peace, power plants and POWs: Washington's take on Trump-Zelenskyy call - in full'
'Could US nuclear power takeover replace the minerals deal?'
Ukraine war latest: Zelenskyy asks for air defence help in 'frank' call with Trump - as US says peace 'never been closer'
The US says "peace has never been closer" after a Donald Trump-Volodymyr Zelenskyy phone call. Zelenskyy called the conversation "frank" and "positive" as he asked for air defence help. There was also an update on intelligence sharing. Listen to The World as you scroll.
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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More politicking and grandstanding from European leaders …self interest.com… in today’s Times:
Sir Keir Starmer’s efforts to unite Europe in the face of Russian aggression have suffered a serious setback after France succeeded in blocking British defence companies from a €150 billion EU fund.
The money cannot be used to buy weapons from Britain, the US or Turkey but only from European arms companies, according to a European Commission proposal.
Under proposals published on Wednesday, the fund will only consider purchasing British weapons if Starmer signs a security pact with Brussels, SOMETHING FRANCE HAS TIED TO FISHING RIGHTS.
Sir Keir Starmer’s efforts to unite Europe in the face of Russian aggression have suffered a serious setback after France succeeded in blocking British defence companies from a €150 billion EU fund.
The money cannot be used to buy weapons from Britain, the US or Turkey but only from European arms companies, according to a European Commission proposal.
Under proposals published on Wednesday, the fund will only consider purchasing British weapons if Starmer signs a security pact with Brussels, SOMETHING FRANCE HAS TIED TO FISHING RIGHTS.
Home and Away
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- Sep 18, 2018
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EU slams the door on US in colossal defense plan
Bloc aims to build up military-industrial complex to deter Russia and brace for the U.S. shift away from Europe.
www.politico.eu
- Jan 25, 2025
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That’s a fun development…Trump wants Ukraine to let the US run Zaporizhzhia…which is currently in Russian-occupied territory.Let's make a new deal. How about the US take over and manage Ukraine's nuclear power plants?
The art of the deal. Park the first deal. Offer a new one. Two for the price of one. Buy one, get one free.
Take a look at Sky's news digest. The meat is in:
'Peace, power plants and POWs: Washington's take on Trump-Zelenskyy call - in full'
'Could US nuclear power takeover replace the minerals deal?'
Ukraine war latest: Zelenskyy asks for air defence help in 'frank' call with Trump - as US says peace 'never been closer'
The US says "peace has never been closer" after a Donald Trump-Volodymyr Zelenskyy phone call. Zelenskyy called the conversation "frank" and "positive" as he asked for air defence help. There was also an update on intelligence sharing. Listen to The World as you scroll.
Sure, Donald, send 250,000 troops to get it back. FUN!
Proof that he’s making it up as he goes and that this is all a sideshow that will achieve nothing (good).
- Jan 25, 2025
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I think that Times report is referencing old news - the only reports I can find on this date to late Jan and the first few days of Feb.More politicking and grandstanding from European leaders …self interest.com… in today’s Times:
Sir Keir Starmer’s efforts to unite Europe in the face of Russian aggression have suffered a serious setback after France succeeded in blocking British defence companies from a €150 billion EU fund.
The money cannot be used to buy weapons from Britain, the US or Turkey but only from European arms companies, according to a European Commission proposal.
Under proposals published on Wednesday, the fund will only consider purchasing British weapons if Starmer signs a security pact with Brussels, SOMETHING FRANCE HAS TIED TO FISHING RIGHTS.
Things have changed just a touch since then, it may as well be years ago not weeks.
Even then, France wasn’t getting full support on that across the EU. President of the EU council quoted on 6th Feb:
Fishing rights will not derail EU-UK security pact, says European Council president
With member states keen to link quotas to any deal, António Costa says defence and fisheries ‘are different things’
www.theguardian.com
Other European countries will want access to our defence industry, Starmer wants a defence agreement…it’s in everyone’s interest. I’d guess it’ll be in place in the next few months.
Exactly...taking away Putin's bread and butter
Very interesting, thanks for postingEU slams the door on US in colossal defense plan
Bloc aims to build up military-industrial complex to deter Russia and brace for the U.S. shift away from Europe.
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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With blackjack. And hookers.
Under proposals published on Wednesday, the fund will only consider purchasing British weapons if Starmer signs a security pact with Brussels, SOMETHING FRANCE HAS TIED TO FISHING RIGHTS.
FFS France
