[Politics] Donald Trump, US President

[Bakero]

If true this really wouldn't surprise me.

Take a look at this piece from 2018: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...ina-trade-negotiations?utm_source=chatgpt.com

 

[Bakero]

It’s been widely reported that Musk has asked Trump to pause the tariffs. He’s had a public spat with Navarro about this. He participated in a White House sales event for his cars. These are not the actions of someone who is happy to see his businesses tanking and what remained of his reputation in tatters.

Hence me saying to a lesser extent Musk. He's taking more of a hit right now than Thiel is. I still think Elon is on board with the ultimate goals though

 

[Curious Orange]

If true this really wouldn't surprise me.

Rachel Maddow also reported on Peter Navrro's book, apparently it only references (without proper citation) the work of one man - Ron Vara...

 

[aolstudios]

The fall of America, right in front of us.

All at the design of Putin, destroying them from within.

And there's no sign of Kasnov being removed.

Exactly this ^
Putin's been waging WW3 on the west for decades & is winning

 

[Hugo Rune]

He thinks Trump is doing God's work and that Musk is the world's greatest scientist.

That’s a very interesting observation on a Trump supporter that one that I’ve yet to encounter from someone I know. But I imagine that opinion is shared will many millions of Americans who have combined their religion and view on politics under the narrative of God saving Trump (by an inch or so) from the bullet in order to carry out his work, a narrative that Trump himself used in his campaigning.

However, the Trump supporters I know (one of whom suggested that he was a workaholic), hold their beliefs for the following two reasons:

1. Trump makes them feel ‘smart’. He talks their language. Free from critical thinking, opinion is king. Trump often uses what he considers ‘facts’ to back up his statements. These are of course, on most occasions, outrageous lies. Most Trump supporters know this. For them, this is a tactic Trump is using to infuriate the liberal hard left. It’s just for show. Behind ‘Trump being Trump’, they think he has all the answers and is a strategic genius because he is rich and did the Apprentice series, that belief is astonishingly unwavering! Let’s see if crashing the US economy can change that as ultimately, these people worship the dollar more than they do God.

2. Gaslighting on EDI. This comes down to people thinking that their intelligence is being insulted and is laser focused on the Trans community. Trump supporters think they know what a man is and what a women is. For the average Trump voter whom lacks the ability of reasoning or critical thinking, it’s black and white. Male or female. No inbetween. So any suggestion that this is not so is met with anger, emotion and frustration. There is also a conscious or in some cases, unconscious desire for the traditional hierarchy of wealth and power we have seen in all most modern societies. In essence, the heterosexual, white wealthy male is king.

 

[raymondo]

A very ex friend from Eastbourne has been sending me messages telling me that I am part of the deep state, trying to undermine Trump and God's will because my Facebook picture had me in a Sandtex replica kit (the really good one) rather than American Express (which I don't have because I'm 54 years old). Unfortunately I replied and told him that I used to work for American Express and now he is convinced that I left to work for George Soros.


He thinks Trump is doing God's work and that Musk is the world's greatest scientist.

Very scary! I didn't realise that God's work included extortion, vengeance, bullying...I've been going wrong all these years!
Am I the only one on NSC not receiving a monthly payment from Soros .

I wish your ex friend a good recovery.

 

[raymondo]

If true this really wouldn't surprise me.

I've read similar from three sources now, so there is probably something in it.

 

[Bozza]

From my most recent Google search performance update email for NSC...

 

[BBassic]

From my most recent Google search performance update email for NSC...

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If there's a Northstand Hat available as merch I'd like to buy one, plz, thx.

 

[Peteinblack]

Northstand Hat?

MAGA - Make Albion Great Again

 

[Scappa]

From my most recent Google search performance update email for NSC...

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[Papa Lazarou]

Very scary! I didn't realise that God's work included extortion, vengeance, bullying...I've been going wrong all these years!
Am I the only one on NSC not receiving a monthly payment from Soros .

I wish your ex friend a good recovery.

It's all very Old Testament - a vengeful God.

 

[Peteinblack]

It's all very Old Testament - a vengeful God.

Old Testament - eternal damnation, floods, pestilence, famine, eye-for-an-eye, Lot's wife turned into a pillar of salt, a plague of locusts, God's vengeance, etc, = 700 pages
New Testament - forgiveness, love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, meek shall inherit the Earth, the Good Samaritan = 200 pages

 

[Fignon's Ponytail]

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Nobody is going to build a shiny new, up to date manufacturing facility in a country where they have no idea what the f*** is going on.

And why would they? You can get the stuff made cheaper elsewhere. A 50% tariff on stuff that's half the price it would cost you to make it is still a 25% saving on making it.

It's just money in the coffers to distribute amongst the super rich.

The USA has closed down loads of state supported organisations and imposed enormous taxes on their citizens. Akin to introducing a new taxation at our level of VAT on all imported goods

If the state is running at a lower cost and there is significantly more money collected by the government*. Where will that go?

I'm guessing it ain't going on a healthcare system.

Would anyone spend 5years building industrial level manufacturing under those circumstances even if they assumed that such a regime would be re-elected?


It's just a cash grab by a bunch of spivs who don't give a f*** about anyone.

*Last edit of several .... Unless the USA is totally f***ed and taxation from income and spending falls dramatically and they enter a significant recession.... Which is entirely possible....but it won't hurt the wealthiest.



There is as much money to be made in a falling market as a rising one if you are wealthy and venal enough.

And make no mistake, they are making it.

Sunak made a fortune betting against the pound after the sub-prime lending debacle in the US tanked our economy.

Imagine how much money Trump and chums can make when it is Trump himself who is rigging the market with seemingly random and sudden imposition of tariffs?

 

[Peteinblack]

Sunak made a fortune betting against the pound after the sub-prime lending debacle in the US tanked our economy.

Imagine how much money Trump and chums can make when it is Trump himself who is rigging the market with seemingly random and sudden imposition of tariffs?

 

[Flounce]

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Surely that would involve admitting that he’d made a mistake? Can’t see him being able to do that

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

From my most recent Google search performance update email for NSC...

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I don't have a hat. Where's my hat? I am a Patron and I want my hat!
(I am also Michael Winner and I want my sausages).

 

[fly high]

Surely that would involve admitting that he’d made a mistake? Can’t see him being able to do that

It would be all part of the genius plan..........

 

[Pevenseagull]

"Destruction leads to a very rough road, but it also breeds creation", as they say.

People tolerate deeper and more radical changes when under pressure. Smashing the economy every now and then leads to more, faster societal movement. "Simple" entropy.

As a conspiracy theorist it looks like a sensible move. From that perspective we're entering the Nihilist era, a bloody, shitfest time until people are on their knees begging for change... which they'll get. The word "freedom" as humans primary keyword will finally have the negative value it secretly already has to most, and the word "security" will take its place.

Looking from the more mainstream "societies are ran by well-willing politicians who may or may not be dumb, and the people who vote for them, who also may or may not be dumb" angle... its hard to see the point.

What is re-establishing U.S. manufacturing going to do to America? How is it going to help? It certainly won't create more jobs

Under the radar, there's currently a very rapidly growing unemployment crisis in China because AI and robotics means you need one guy working in a factory where you previously needed hundreds. Unless the US is planning to build obsolete factories on outdated technology, it won't bring them more jobs. Most likely jobs will be lost instead: if they invest heavily in "re-industrialisation" a lot of it will be spent on modernising their current industry... also known as getting ridy of those annoying workers.

I have a difficult time seeing how fully automatic factories producing goods for people, who can't afford it because they have no job at the factory, would eventually turn things around and make everyone rich and happy a.k.a. "great again". But I'm sure neo-liberals and conservatives will show me some obsolete mythological economic model where the world will return to the 20th century eventually.

"All watched over by machines of loving grace" ..... with the few owning the machines.