Yes and no. Fab seems to lack leadership and Dunk is all at sea when he plays and is of course captain by default. We seem to have much better on pitch leadership when Welbeck is captain.
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[Albion] Danny Welbeck postgame comments.
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Lenny Rider
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Which given the squad spend isn’t ideal.
Mancgull
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This is where we’ve missed Milner this season. Not to start every game but to give leadership on the pitch in a vital area.
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He can still bollock players for wearing snoods and gloves from the touchline can’t he?
Nobby Cybergoat
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If you've got a team full of young players it will always look like you don't have leaders. We have very good ones, but they can't stop the keeper giving the ball away, or your forward getting sent off.
The truth is we're just young and with that will come a high degree of inconsistency. Injury has prevented us rotating out players when they are out of form or not in the right headspace
The truth is we're just young and with that will come a high degree of inconsistency. Injury has prevented us rotating out players when they are out of form or not in the right headspace
The Fits
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And much much better when Webster is captain. The kids are probably terrified of him even though he seems a thoroughly nice chap. He cajoles and scowls and bollocks and points and inspires.
It should be our number one priority to find another leader this summer. Don’t care where they play, as long as they are likely to start. Someone with experience and respect and heart.
“It's not good enough. There have been so many of these performances throughout the season”.
Love player honesty.
Put paid to the licker theory that it’s all been marvelous, nothing to see here.
Love player honesty.
Put paid to the licker theory that it’s all been marvelous, nothing to see here.
Cowfold Seagull
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Are you saying that Dunky isn't a good captian? a good leader?
I disagree. Yes his form has dropped right off for whatever reason, but that hasn't stopped him from leading and motivating the team.
The Fits
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Dunk is a captain who leads by example. That’s his leadership style.
So at the moment he clearly isn’t a good captain.
mile oak
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Yes I agree and when the outstanding player of the season, a club legend of word class ability says this you have to listen and take note. I have had people say to me has Fab lost the dressing room? but this puts a new perspective on things. The post match radio interview Solly gave also suggested he was available to play from the start not come on as a sub. Has the strength and conditioning coaching taken over team selection?
mile oak
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Bit harsh on a player that's served the club exceptionally well HOWEVER for me Welbeck is the REAL leader and I would personally make him captain. He is indeed one the greatest players EVER to pull on an Albion shirt.
Yes that’s exactly what I’m saying, he isn’t a great captain, never has been. He assumed the position by seniority and his performances on the pitch but he isn’t a natural leader. Bruno, Gross, Lallana, Milner and Webster for example have all been better leaders but are no longer here or not available.
100%
Even now I would think Bruno would be a more competitive RB than Hinsh or Wieffer.
Well a 3 game ban virtually ensures he won't be injured for his big summer move.
ROSM
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We've missed a gross/lallana style calm, authoritive leader on the pitch. Steele gives it, Webster does too and Milner does. Dunk is more a fierce up and at'em style
rebel51
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I used to live next door to him as a whippersnapper, played tennis with him a lot. He loved a booze during the week, took my old man out a lot for nights out to the local nightspots.
Mike Small
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Posted about Welbeck's comments yesterday. Very telling. On the one hand we have our manger saying "we shouldn't point fingers" and Danny, an experienced pro, been there seen it done it in the PL for teams at all levels and a winner say "some players aren't playing for each other and it's happened too many times this season". He's not listening to people saying we're like whiny Utd fans.
The main point for me is that I thought/presumed the Forest debacle got rid of these performances but it's the manner of performances since we went behind against Villa is disgraceful really. Weak, soft, naive, lazy, arrogant. I cannot stand some of our players attitude:
JP - deliberately slow on the ball and has been a walking red card many times this year. He's let everyone down.
Minteh - stopped defending last few weeks. Refuses to kick a ball with his right foot and gets mardy, shaking his head when he gets subbed.
Pervis - poor for all four goals yesterday and gave away the free kick V Leicester which led to the second goal. What is wrong with him?
Bart - has shrunk into himself. Maybe being linked with bigger clubs has also got to him
JPVH, March and Jack deserve better personalities alongside them. They care.
I have seen virtually nothing from Hurzelar to suggest he should sort them out. He doesn't have the balls to deal with this on the evidence. 'Friendly authority' - what a load of absolute shit. He has to start March and Mitoma V Potter next week. Watching that second yesterday gave me 22/23 vibes.
I am f***ing furious that they have reverted to pre Forest crap in a matter of weeks.
The main point for me is that I thought/presumed the Forest debacle got rid of these performances but it's the manner of performances since we went behind against Villa is disgraceful really. Weak, soft, naive, lazy, arrogant. I cannot stand some of our players attitude:
JP - deliberately slow on the ball and has been a walking red card many times this year. He's let everyone down.
Minteh - stopped defending last few weeks. Refuses to kick a ball with his right foot and gets mardy, shaking his head when he gets subbed.
Pervis - poor for all four goals yesterday and gave away the free kick V Leicester which led to the second goal. What is wrong with him?
Bart - has shrunk into himself. Maybe being linked with bigger clubs has also got to him
JPVH, March and Jack deserve better personalities alongside them. They care.
I have seen virtually nothing from Hurzelar to suggest he should sort them out. He doesn't have the balls to deal with this on the evidence. 'Friendly authority' - what a load of absolute shit. He has to start March and Mitoma V Potter next week. Watching that second yesterday gave me 22/23 vibes.
I am f***ing furious that they have reverted to pre Forest crap in a matter of weeks.