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It’s real, in that it was first reported on Sunday (here’s France 24). It’s been reported in multiple places.
(I also found one link reporting Japan and South Korea stating the story has been exaggerated, but only one)
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(I also found one link reporting Japan and South Korea stating the story has been exaggerated, but only one)
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Good. Excellent news.
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Trump, the Insurrection Act and the path to Martial Law
Jesus f***ing Christ...
"The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.
But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had been deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring Abrego Garcia back now that he is in Salvadoran custody.
Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, Abrego Garcia’s attorney, said he’s never seen a case in which the government knowingly deported someone who had already received protected legal status from an immigration judge. He is asking the court to order the Trump administration to ask for Abrego Garcia’s return and, if necessary, to withhold payment to the Salvadoran government, which says it’s charging the United States $6 million a year to jail U.S. deportees.
Trump-administration attorneys told the court to dismiss the request on multiple grounds, including that Trump’s “primacy in foreign affairs” outweighs the interests of Abrego Garcia and his family."
www.theatlantic.com
"The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.
But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had been deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring Abrego Garcia back now that he is in Salvadoran custody.
Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, Abrego Garcia’s attorney, said he’s never seen a case in which the government knowingly deported someone who had already received protected legal status from an immigration judge. He is asking the court to order the Trump administration to ask for Abrego Garcia’s return and, if necessary, to withhold payment to the Salvadoran government, which says it’s charging the United States $6 million a year to jail U.S. deportees.
Trump-administration attorneys told the court to dismiss the request on multiple grounds, including that Trump’s “primacy in foreign affairs” outweighs the interests of Abrego Garcia and his family."
An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison
The Trump administration says that it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.
www.theatlantic.com
- Jan 25, 2025
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That last sentence shows how little they care about the trauma they’re inflicting on people.Jesus f***ing Christ...
"The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.
But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, had been deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring Abrego Garcia back now that he is in Salvadoran custody.
Simon Sandoval-Moshenberg, Abrego Garcia’s attorney, said he’s never seen a case in which the government knowingly deported someone who had already received protected legal status from an immigration judge. He is asking the court to order the Trump administration to ask for Abrego Garcia’s return and, if necessary, to withhold payment to the Salvadoran government, which says it’s charging the United States $6 million a year to jail U.S. deportees.
Trump-administration attorneys told the court to dismiss the request on multiple grounds, including that Trump’s “primacy in foreign affairs” outweighs the interests of Abrego Garcia and his family."
An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison
The Trump administration says that it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.
Except that most of the things which disgust us about Trump are precisely the aspects which his sycophantic followers adore - he is giving them what they want (or have been persuaded they want), namely targeting of minorities they hate: immigrants, pro-Palestinians/critics of Israel, students/academics/intellectuals/universities, experts/scientists, those who believe that Climate Change is real, supporters of a woman's right to choose (abortion), civil servants, the 'radical Left', etc.
When his policies fail to deliver growth and prosperity for the majority of American citizens, the Trump regime will identify or manufacture new 'enemies' to blame, bully, deport or imprison. Eventually, some of those who supported him will find themselves being targeted, whereupon they will realise that Trump is not constrained by notions of loyalty, and ultimately does not care about them; they are merely 'useful idiots' while he establishes his power and silences criticism.
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As I posted yesterday, being the first time that voters have gone to the polls since November, this is a litmus test of how Trump/Musk is performing. Despite Musk pouring millions of dollars into the campaign (the most expensive State judicial race in history), voters have given him the bird.Good news from Wisconsin, Musk’s millions have failed to win the state Supreme Court election there. The court remains a liberal majority.
Wisconsin supreme court race: liberal Susan Crawford beats Musk-backed candidate
Liberal judge says victory is against ‘unprecedented attack on our democracy’ after defeating Brad Schimel in the most expensive judicial election in US historywww.theguardian.com
I wonder if this is as much, if not more, about Musks involvement DOGE than anything else. Musk’s influence behind the throne may have become a liability for Trump - and we all know how Trump dispatches those that have lost their uses for him. We can only hope.
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Like this news, it was ever the case.
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I wonder if Musk will rounded up and sent back to South Africa, now that would be funny
But also their underlying intentions. They want this 'sort of person' deported.
There were also two special elections in Florida yesterday to fill the seats left vacant by Matt Gaetz and Mike Waltz.
The Republicans won both - it would have been quite the shock if they hadn't - but the margin of victory narrowed significantly from last year, which is a positive sign.
No doubt part of it is to create a climate of fear in order to deter would-be immigrants.
It's certainly having that effect anyway, even on people considering entry by legal means. A friend of mine teaches English to a Spanish teen whose mother wants to send her to the US for uni. The girl is dead against it as she's fearful that being Hispanic in Trump's America can lead to you being locked up in El Salvador.
- Jan 25, 2025
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File this under wanting to have your cake and eat it. Cross-reference under mind-boggling hypocrisy.
Appropriate response: mind your own f***ing business.
www.theguardian.com
Appropriate response: mind your own f***ing business.
US officials challenge Ofcom over online safety laws’ impact on free speech
Exclusive: State department said to have raised concerns over whether new act diminishes freedom of expression
www.theguardian.com
TomandJerry
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Wisconsin supreme court race - liberal Susan Crawford beats Musk-backed candidate
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fly high
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Bloody hypocrites when they are banning, deporting and locking up people they disagree with or criticises them. Big tech has been against this bill from the off as it means they will have to police their sites more carefully or risk massive fines. Wait for it when the first fine is dished out, they will be squealing like pigs.File this under wanting to have your cake and eat it. Cross-reference under mind-boggling hypocrisy.
Appropriate response: mind your own f***ing business.
US officials challenge Ofcom over online safety laws’ impact on free speech
Exclusive: State department said to have raised concerns over whether new act diminishes freedom of expression
File this under wanting to have your cake and eat it. Cross-reference under mind-boggling hypocrisy.
Appropriate response: mind your own f***ing business.
US officials challenge Ofcom over online safety laws’ impact on free speech
Exclusive: State department said to have raised concerns over whether new act diminishes freedom of expression
Unfettered capitalism for their mates, tariffs for the foreigners.
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Yes, but if they get 31% they will win a majority (according to you).
Then they will be the establishment.
All they need to do is find that magical 31%.
And have it clustered just the right way (31% across the board wins no seats in FPTP).
But with PR they need only 10% of the vote to become a noisy and impactful member of a right win coalition.
Just like the nut job parties in Israel.
I may not be an election guru but I can count up to 100 (%).
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US sees increase in measles cases and children with measles suffering from toxically high levels of Vitamin A
This obviously has nothing to do with Trumps health secretary's long espoused nonsense beliefs that children shouldn't be vaccinated against measles and that it is best treated with (dangerously) high doses of Vitamin A.
This obviously has nothing to do with Trumps health secretary's long espoused nonsense beliefs that children shouldn't be vaccinated against measles and that it is best treated with (dangerously) high doses of Vitamin A.
Withdean South Stand
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A friend of mine (British, never been to America) has been championing Trump for the last decade. The moment that Orange C*nt rolled down the escalator, he's been talking him up. The first term he said that it was the "deep State" that stopped his "inevitable" ascension to greatness and incredible prosperity for the entire country (and probably the world). He does not believe (present tense) that Trump lost the 2020 election.
I never thought the penny would drop or that he would see the light, but he now has. The Zelenskyy meeting, obviously winding him up to get the TV moment he wanted, was the first straw and now the tariffs and cuddling up to Musk has broken the back of this particularly thick and water-retaining camel.
He announced this revelation recently and seemed annoyed when I told him, very firmly, to f*** off. If it hasn't been obvious from the beginning, I don't want to hear about how he's seen the light now. It's better late than never, but I can't stand the people (And I'm sure there will be more, but none on this thread) who are now (or shortly about to) realising what an imbecile he is and how little regard he has to anything other than himself. Fact.
I never thought the penny would drop or that he would see the light, but he now has. The Zelenskyy meeting, obviously winding him up to get the TV moment he wanted, was the first straw and now the tariffs and cuddling up to Musk has broken the back of this particularly thick and water-retaining camel.
He announced this revelation recently and seemed annoyed when I told him, very firmly, to f*** off. If it hasn't been obvious from the beginning, I don't want to hear about how he's seen the light now. It's better late than never, but I can't stand the people (And I'm sure there will be more, but none on this thread) who are now (or shortly about to) realising what an imbecile he is and how little regard he has to anything other than himself. Fact.