[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[Eric the meek]

Imagine being so utterly shit at your job that even THIS administration feels you have to go

I predict there will be a succession of firings, as people are thrown under the bus, one by one.

Trump seems to have already made JD Vance his 'tariff csar'. Off you go then JD.

 

[raymondo]

You have to remember Russia still thinks wars are fought with straight line frontal attacks.

Yeah they're a funny mixture at the moment:
- meatwave attacks (folk from the provinces are best at these)
- their drone industry/imports have also boomed ( the operators are most likely from the major cities)

 

[raymondo]

Sad news for fans of Pete Hegseth. The White House is reported as looking for a new Secretary of Defence.



For background, the Pentagon is a hotbed of leaks - see the Jake Broe video from 09:48 onwards (post 25,720)

I thought he passed his ten minute training with flying colours

 

[raymondo]

Imagine being so utterly shit at your job that even THIS administration feels you have to go

I think Hegseth must have upset Putin, didn't include him on some Signal chat thingy

 

[raymondo]

I predict there will be a succession of firings, as people are thrown under the bus, one by one.

Trump seems to have already made JD Vance his 'tariff csar'. Off you go then JD.

I'm expecting Vance to stab Trump in the back at some point...he looks the type.

 

[Sirnormangall]

Sad news for fans of Pete Hegseth. The White House is reported as looking for a new Secretary of Defence.



For background, the Pentagon is a hotbed of leaks - see the Jake Broe video from 09:48 onwards (post 25,720)

Yes, reports today of yet another leak of classified info by Hegseth. But Leavitt, the PR lady, says he’s doing a great job. Amateurs. I think MAGA relies on the support of the dumbest people in the US - sadly there’s a lot of them.

 

[Sirnormangall]

I'm expecting Vance to stab Trump in the back at some point...he looks the type.

I’d imagine there are many people who hope that literally happens.

 

[Eric the meek]

 

[essbee1]

Good.

 

[happypig]

Yes, reports today of yet another leak of classified info by Hegseth. But Leavitt, the PR lady, says he’s doing a great job. Amateurs. I think MAGA relies on the support of the dumbest people in the US - sadly there’s a lot of them.

50% of people are of below average intelligence. As with Brexit, if you can get a few more of them to vote your way you will win.

 

[papachris]

We already spend 5% on defense here plus an extra 2% defence tax will start soon. You can just hope for the best or be prepared, I know which I prefer.
All countries in Europe need to be stepping up and prepared

Estonia testing all 120 emergency sirens nationwide for first time ever

On Wednesday, May 14, an exercise will activate all public warning sirens across Estonia nationwide and simultaneously — the first time this has been done.

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'Do what you can:' Why do foreign nationals join Estonia's Defense League?

The changed security situation has increased interest in the volunteer Defense League (EDL) among both Estonians and foreign nationals living in Estonia. But what makes foreigners want to join? ERR News found out.

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[raymondo]

Phillips O'Brien's piece (extract) on Trump's refusal to sell Patriot systems and missiles to Ukraine. So, it's never been about the money, it's about helping Russia to win.
Please, Ukraine, unless Patriots are part of the minerals deal, why would you sign any deal with this US government??
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"This seems very much to be a deliberate, targeted campaign to terrorize Ukrainian civilians and force the Ukrainians to use up their dwindling stock of Patriot missiles.

And it is working. The Ukrainians are desperately trying to get their hands on more Patriots—and its reached the stage that they are willing to pay whatever it takes to get more. Zelensky told CBS news that he wanted to buy up to 10 new Patriot systems and their missiles, which would be a major win for the US defense economy. Zelensky said he wanted to buy 10 U.S.-made Patriot systems — worth $1.5 billion each — to shield Ukrainian cities from relentless Russian missile and drone strikes.

"We will find the money and pay for everything," Zelensky said, stressing that Ukraine is prepared to purchase, not request for free, the $15 billion package.

Trump, however, working hand in hand with Putin, is refusing to sell them—even though that would benefit US workers and help the US economy. Indeed, in the last few days he has started boasting about the fact that Ukraine is desperate to buy more Patriots, and he is refusing to make a deal. Two days ago he told an Oval Office press conference.

"He's always looking to purchase missiles. Listen, when you start a war, you gotta know you can win a war. You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles."

And it was just reported in Das Bild that the EU made it known that the would support a $50 billion weapons purchase for Ukraine from the USA—including Patriots. Trump, naturally has refused.

Remember months ago, when those who said that Trump would definitely be willing to help Ukraine by selling them weapons? Well it turns out that was another lie.

So here we have it. The USA (Trump is the duly elected president with the support of Congress—so this is the official position of the US government) is now working together with the Russian government to see more Ukrainians killed. The USA is encouraging a Russian missile campaign against Ukrainian civilians by letting the Russians know that the US will deprive Ukraine of the means to defend those civilians and no longer provide Ukrainian Patriots.

So, the next time a Russian missile lands in a Ukrainian city and bodies litter the streets, realize this is an act that is being encouraged and supported by the USA. The USA is no longer a defender of democracy in Europe, it is an enabler of dictatorship and death."

 

[raymondo]

We already spend 5% on defense here plus an extra 2% defence tax will start soon. You can just hope for the best or be prepared, I know which I prefer.
All countries in Europe need to be stepping up and prepared

Estonia testing all 120 emergency sirens nationwide for first time ever

On Wednesday, May 14, an exercise will activate all public warning sirens across Estonia nationwide and simultaneously — the first time this has been done.

news.err.ee

'Do what you can:' Why do foreign nationals join Estonia's Defense League?

The changed security situation has increased interest in the volunteer Defense League (EDL) among both Estonians and foreign nationals living in Estonia. But what makes foreigners want to join? ERR News found out.

news.err.ee

Very interesting reports, thanks . Well done, Estonia!

 

[raymondo]

 

[fly high]

Phillips O'Brien's piece (extract) on Trump's refusal to sell Patriot systems and missiles to Ukraine. So, it's never been about the money, it's about helping Russia to win.
Please, Ukraine, unless Patriots are part of the minerals deal, why would you sign any deal with this US government??
------------------
"This seems very much to be a deliberate, targeted campaign to terrorize Ukrainian civilians and force the Ukrainians to use up their dwindling stock of Patriot missiles.

And it is working. The Ukrainians are desperately trying to get their hands on more Patriots—and its reached the stage that they are willing to pay whatever it takes to get more. Zelensky told CBS news that he wanted to buy up to 10 new Patriot systems and their missiles, which would be a major win for the US defense economy. Zelensky said he wanted to buy 10 U.S.-made Patriot systems — worth $1.5 billion each — to shield Ukrainian cities from relentless Russian missile and drone strikes.

"We will find the money and pay for everything," Zelensky said, stressing that Ukraine is prepared to purchase, not request for free, the $15 billion package.

Trump, however, working hand in hand with Putin, is refusing to sell them—even though that would benefit US workers and help the US economy. Indeed, in the last few days he has started boasting about the fact that Ukraine is desperate to buy more Patriots, and he is refusing to make a deal. Two days ago he told an Oval Office press conference.

"He's always looking to purchase missiles. Listen, when you start a war, you gotta know you can win a war. You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope that people give you some missiles."

And it was just reported in Das Bild that the EU made it known that the would support a $50 billion weapons purchase for Ukraine from the USA—including Patriots. Trump, naturally has refused.

Remember months ago, when those who said that Trump would definitely be willing to help Ukraine by selling them weapons? Well it turns out that was another lie.

So here we have it. The USA (Trump is the duly elected president with the support of Congress—so this is the official position of the US government) is now working together with the Russian government to see more Ukrainians killed. The USA is encouraging a Russian missile campaign against Ukrainian civilians by letting the Russians know that the US will deprive Ukraine of the means to defend those civilians and no longer provide Ukrainian Patriots.

So, the next time a Russian missile lands in a Ukrainian city and bodies litter the streets, realize this is an act that is being encouraged and supported by the USA. The USA is no longer a defender of democracy in Europe, it is an enabler of dictatorship and death."

Can't we just buy them & then sell/hand them to Ukraine?

 

[SouthSaxon]

Can't we just buy them & then sell/hand them to Ukraine?

Even Trump might see through a ruse that we need some to protect the greens at Turnberry from gulls. Still, could be worth a try.

 

[peterward]

As US are trying to pressure Ukraine Zelenskyy into recognising Crimea as Russian, and says deal close.... Zelenskyy responds.

 

[fly high]

As US are trying to pressure Ukraine Zelenskyy into recognising Crimea as Russian, and says deal close.... Zelenskyy responds.

Trump will then say Ukraine are blocking peace and we start working with Russia on trade.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

That

Trump will then say Ukraine are blocking peace and we start working with Russia on trade.

who gives a shit. Who seriously believes anything this idiot says?

 

[peterward]

Trump will then say Ukraine are blocking peace and we start working with Russia on trade.

He will anyway.