[Albion] What are your expectations as a football club ?

[sakooshi]

it is possible that our best days in terms of results and style of football, could be behind us

Depressing thought, but you are probably right

 

[peterward]

What are your expectations for us as a football club ?

Is getting into Europe every season the absolute minimum we should be achieving?

And if we don’t make it do you think the season has been a failure and we should sack the manager each time ?

*mods please edit title - fat fingers

To play a system/systems that maximises the ability of our current squad to consistently get results.

League will then take care of itself.

To say Europe, top 6 or 10 etc is Naive if you don't have the squad (we do currently), or don't have the right tactics/coaching/motivation (i'd question that bit presently)

You need both and a bit of luck.

 

[chickens]

I see us as a mid-table club, currently operating in that 8th to 12th no-man’s land.

I’m not sure we currently have the players or the experience in the dugout to achieve more, and given that it’s possible to spend your second season making a perfectly different set of mistakes to your first, I’m not expecting much more from next season either.

If we can hit the magic combination of Hürzeler acquiring sufficient nous to manage well consistently in the Premier League, and a rediscovery of form in our recruitment, then the 26/27 season may be a really good season for us, but I’ve got us down to be almost equally frustrating next season as this.

 

[Greg Bobkin]

I don't really have any. I take each game as it comes - and the ups with the downs - and not let football rule or ruin my day.

I completely understand those who are fully invested in the club and who take every result and performance personally, but I'm afraid I don't have the energy or head space for all that shit. If getting rid of the manager will make them happy, then good luck to them, but it's not me and I don't think it ever will be.

 

[BadFish]

It's the expectations that kill ya.

From what I can see those on NSC who have higher expectations, are much angrier than those with lower or no expectations.

It's supposed to be enjoyable, why choose to raise your expectations and get so frustrated and angry when they are not met. With a little switch in thinking football goes from terrible to enjoyable.

'We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are'
Anaïs Nin

 

[Lenny Rider]

We’re nailed on to win a trophy for ‘Best Sports Documentary Film’, so at least we have that to look forward to.

Sorry not sure on that score now.

Neutrals, ie judges, might see it in a different light to how we do.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Not to be relegated from League 2 / Division 4 / or whatever its called these days.

 

[BadFish]

Here we go again, long term, processes and projects…when are people going to understand it just doesn’t exist in football. It’s all change pretty much every season. You can rarely plan for the next five matches never mind five years. All about the moment, each season on its own merit pretty much. If we do well, staff are poached. If we don’t, staff are shipped out or sacked. And it seems “a large proportion of our fans just seem utterly incapable…of understanding” this!

People see the world differently to you mate, you are just going to have to come to terms with that fact.

Sorry if this makes you angrier

 

[BadFish]

Not to be relegated from League 2 / Division 4 / or whatever its called these days.

Don't mention the lower leagues, you'll set them off again!!

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Don't mention the lower leagues, you'll set them off again!!

I am easily pleased

 

[BadFish]

To answer the question, my expectations are that we run the club sustainably, keeps the links to the community, operate a little outside of the box and definitely don't sell out to bloody money (with a little mental gymnastics I can just about cope with being built on gambling money).

I do appreciate it when we play decent football as it makes it easier to watch in the middle of the night. I also love it when we have local lads on the team

I would also dearly love to win a trophy before it all goes tits up and we retake our place in the football pyramid.

Oh and a Hummel kit please.

Edit: I also expect us to keep up our no dick heads policy.

 

[BadFish]

I am easily pleased

The path to football happiness my friend.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

What are your expectations for us as a football club ?

Is getting into Europe every season the absolute minimum we should be achieving?

And if we don’t make it do you think the season has been a failure and we should sack the manager each time ?

*mods please edit title - fat fingers

I'm sure there may eventually be a few fans that get to that level of entitlement.
If we were to get to the stage where we were capable of competing in Europe every season, it would quickly lose it's appeal.

I like the fact that it is just out of our grasp.

 

[BadFish]

I'm sure there may eventually be a few fans that get to that level of entitlement.
If we were to get to the stage where we were capable of competing in Europe every season, it would quickly lose it's appeal.

I like the fact that it is just out of our grasp.

Regular top ten football was just out of our grasp a few years ago. I suspect that some people will never be happy with where we are at.

 

[Commander]

Here we go again, long term, processes and projects…when are people going to understand it just doesn’t exist in football. It’s all change pretty much every season. You can rarely plan for the next five matches never mind five years. All about the moment, each season on its own merit pretty much. If we do well, staff are poached. If we don’t, staff are shipped out or sacked. And it seems “a large proportion of our fans just seem utterly incapable…of understanding” this!

Absolute bollocks. Look where we are now compared to when we were in the Championship. Look at the depth of our squad. How many clubs have gone up and down since then? We have consistently strengthened the club in all areas through having an actual model and a strategy and long-term plan, which is why we haven’t been a yo yo club and why we have never been in serious danger of relegation. But success doesn’t come in a straight line, there are always bumps and wobbles along the way, and that means seasons as well as individual games / runs.

From your post it seems you disagree with Bloom’s strategy and that you know better than him. Would you agree with that statement?

 

[Official Old Man]

Teams we'll never be as good as
Liverpool
Man City
Arsenal
Spurs
Man Utd
Chelsea
This is fact. But we should be, and are, in that group of teams that go for 7th or 8th along with a cup run. There will always be one or two teams who break in to the top 6 when a top team have an 'off' season. That could, and maybe should, have been us this season. Forest will not be there next season with two games a week but then Everton will take their place.

 

[tigertim68]

We were told Bloom's ambition was to consistently be a top 10 Premier League club.

For me, over the course of 5 seasons that would be 3 seasons in 8th - 10th, allowing for one transition season in 10th - 13th and one season where the stars align and we finish 5th - 6th. I really can't believe there are actually Brighton fans that would be unhappy with that, and that is pretty much exactly what we are achieving.

I understand individual results and winless runs are frustrating, but I just don't get the clamour to sack a manager who is learning his trade and is more or less achieving our aims. I keep reading about how he is 'uninspiring and robotic'. Well for me, that is far better than someone who moans about everything, blames poor form on injuries, publicly complains about the owner's transfer policies, or throws a hissy fit when some fans dare to boo a crap performance. I know which one of the last three managers I'd prefer to manage if I were Bloom / Barber.

A large proportion of our fans just seem utterly incapable of playing / understanding the long game.

We should not be employing a trainee manager who is learning his trade at our expense, then when he becomes good will bugger off to the first big offer he receives

 

[BadFish]

We should not be employing a trainee manager who is learning his trade at our expense, then when he becomes good will bugger off to the first big offer he receives

Except for Potter and De Zerbi?

 

[Clive Walker]

I’m a bit fed up with individuals using the club for their own careers. I really miss the together ethos that got us from the champ to the PL. I get our model and it works but it’s not flawless.

 

[BadFish]

I’m a bit fed up with individuals using the club for their own careers. I really miss the together ethos that got us from the champ to the PL. I get our model and it works but it’s not flawless.

I loved the Wendy Wilkins under 21 team but sadly this is the way of modern football.